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  • CBO: Social Security to begin running permanent deficits this year, not 2016



    Not unexpected.

    The Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday that Social Security will pay out $45 billion more in benefits this year than it will collect in payroll taxes, further straining the nation’s finances. The deficits will continue until the Social Security trust funds are eventually drained, in about 2037.

    Previously, CBO said Social Security would start running permanent deficits in 2016. In the short term, Social Security is suffering from a weak economy that has payroll taxes lagging and applications for benefits rising. In the long term, Social Security will be strained by the growing number of baby boomers retiring and applying for benefits.

    Remember the payroll tax cut for employees that was part of last month’s tax cuts deal? Democrats warned at the time that that would play into the GOP’s hands on entitlement reform by establishing a new lower baseline rate that’s insufficient to fund the program. (The current rate is temporary, but as we’ve learned, temporary tax rates are hard to raise.) The result: An accelerated, expanded shortfall in Social Security that will inevitably intensify cries that the program is unsustainable and needs to be reformed. Which, of course, it does: As noted above, assuming The One wins a second term, Social Security would have begun running deficits before the end of his presidency anyway. As it is, two graphs for you from today’s new CBO report. First, the Baby Boomer effect on expenses over the next 10 years:



    And second, the offsetting receipts, with the Medicare line self-explanatory:



    This isn’t the only horrible news in the report by a longshot, either. CBO’s projected deficit for this year is a cool $1.5 trillion or 9.8 percent of GDP, which is just two-tenths of one percent less than last year’s all-time budget-buster. And there’s not much revenue relief coming from new jobs: CBO expects that unemployment will remain above eight percent through 2012 and won’t get back to a historic norm of 5-6 percent or so until 2016. This ship has already started to sink, in other words, and yet Captain Hope chose to use his annual megaphone last night to talk about stuff like high-speed rail. As Megan McArdle says, terrifying.

  • #2
    The sooner it all goes to the shitter, the better off we will all be.
    Originally posted by racrguy
    What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
    Originally posted by racrguy
    Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
      The sooner it all goes to the shitter, the better off we will all be.
      Agreed. It irritates me to no end that I am putting 4 grand a year into SS when I am never gonna see a God damned dime of it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by sc281 View Post
        Agreed. It irritates me to no end that I am putting 4 grand a year into SS when I am never gonna see a God damned dime of it.
        You'll still be putting four grand into there after the shit hits the fan, it is just that the politicians may not get to steal it for other things, which is how it should have been all along.
        Originally posted by racrguy
        What's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?
        Originally posted by racrguy
        Voting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sc281 View Post
          Agreed. It irritates me to no end that I am putting 4 grand a year into SS when I am never gonna see a God damned dime of it.
          That's OK, just knowing that I'll enjoy spending it for you should give you a measure of satisfaction.
          Last edited by The King; 01-26-2011, 10:02 PM.

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          • #6
            You know that will never happen

            Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
            You'll still be putting four grand into there after the shit hits the fan, it is just that the politicians may not get to steal it for other things, which is how it should have been all along.
            SS funds will never go anywhere but the general fund. I just loved the SOTU speech. SPEND SPEND SPEND, college for everyone, more trains that run at 70 mph, have no passengers and and lose 1.5 billion a year, thousands of new doctors that no one can pay because the dollar won't be worth two cents.
            Really love it. Look what education did for America, the educated voted in Obama. I hope they like the change in another 2 years.

            I'm just like you guys, working 2 jobs keeping my head above water, paying SS for the last 45 years. I'm now 62, I had hoped to retire at 65, lol what a freekin joke. I'll never be able to retire. Sure, I have a 401 with money in it that won't be worth shit in 5 years. I'm stocking bullets and growing food.
            Don't worry about what you can't change.
            Do the best you can with what you have.
            Be honest, even if it hurts.

            "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" ... Winston Churchill

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jyro View Post
              SS funds will never go anywhere but the general fund. I just loved the SOTU speech. SPEND SPEND SPEND, college for everyone, more trains that run at 70 mph, have no passengers and and lose 1.5 billion a year, thousands of new doctors that no one can pay because the dollar won't be worth two cents.
              Really love it. Look what education did for America, the educated voted in Obama. I hope they like the change in another 2 years.

              I'm just like you guys, working 2 jobs keeping my head above water, paying SS for the last 45 years. I'm now 62, I had hoped to retire at 65, lol what a freekin joke. I'll never be able to retire. Sure, I have a 401 with money in it that won't be worth shit in 5 years. I'm stocking bullets and growing food.
              They should prefer to call themselves "enlightened", because they are anything but educated in reality.

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              • #8
                Medicaid/Medicare is a way bigger problem. The CBO puts out a report that looks just like a 10k/Financial statement. You know they're aggressive...check it out.
                Originally posted by davbrucas
                I want to like Slow99 since people I know say he's a good guy, but just about everything he posts is condescending and passive aggressive.

                Most people I talk to have nothing but good things to say about you, but you sure come across as a condescending prick. Do you have an inferiority complex you've attempted to overcome through overachievement? Or were you fondled as a child?

                You and slow99 should date. You both have passive aggressiveness down pat.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                  Agreed. It irritates me to no end that I am putting 4 grand a year into SS when I am never gonna see a God damned dime of it.
                  Yeah they had the gall to send me a letter saying something like "When you are ready to retire in 2050, SS will still have money for you. You'll be able to draw $750 a month. So no worries." So after inflation, I'll have enough to buy what... a freaking happy meal?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slow99 View Post
                    Medicaid/Medicare is a way bigger problem. The CBO puts out a report that looks just like a 10k/Financial statement. You know they're aggressive...check it out.
                    You're depressing. Ya know that?

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                    • #11
                      You've GOT to listen to this interview by Peter Schiff and a Social Security trustee...

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                      • #12
                        why is it so hard to figure this out? either you raise taxes to cover the expense, or you get rid of the expense. yet very few politicians are able to actually choose one or the other, and come out and say it.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
                          why is it so hard to figure this out? either you raise taxes to cover the expense, or you get rid of the expense. yet very few politicians are able to actually choose one or the other, and come out and say it.
                          You certainly don't lower the witholding tax like Obammy and our current Congress did if the intent is to continue with Social Security in its current form.

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                          • #14
                            It's time to punt.

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                            • #15
                              And how is Social Security any different than Bernie Madoff?
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