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    In August, Missouri became the latest state to rebel against the new national health care law when 71 percent of voters supported a ballot initiative rejecting the legislation's requirement that individuals purchase government-approved insurance. Several other states will consider similar measures on the ballot this November.

    However satisfying this backlash against ObamaCare may be to opponents of the law, these state-based efforts could all be for naught if the U.S. Supreme Court sides with Congress and rules that the legislation's individual mandate is constitutional.

    Such a decision would have far-reaching consequences, giving broad new power to the federal government over individuals and states. It would mean that the interstate Commerce Clause would have been interpreted so broadly as to allow the federal government to regulate the activities of people who choose not to engage in commerce, and within a health insurance market where businesses aren't even allowed to sell their products across state lines. It would represent the culmination of decades in erosion of the concept of the separation of powers between federal and state governments, and the boldest example of congressional over-reach in the age of Obama.

    In that scenario, short of repeal, the only remaining way to fight the law would be to amend the Constitution. Given how polarized the modern U.S. Senate is, it's highly unlikely that a proposed amendment would garner the necessary 67 votes needed to amend the Constitution in the traditional manner. Yet the Founding Fathers left the states one last check on federal power.

    Under Article V of the Constitution, "Congress… on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which… shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States."

    http://spectator.org/archives/2010/1...r-a-convention
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    Hmmmmm.... that would certainly send a message to washington if the states did that. Interesting to think about, and i think it will eventually happen when the states have had enough.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mikeb View Post
      Hmmmmm.... that would certainly send a message to washington if the states did that. Interesting to think about, and i think it will eventually happen when the states have had enough.
      You honestly think a new constitutional convention would yield a "better" constitution? Too many people think our constitution is outdated, symbolic, and a "living" document.

      All we would get is our current constitution shredded and a more tyrannical one put in place. That is a goal of the New World Order. Kill personal rights, kill private property, kill US sovreignty. Keep in mind, half of the people, if not more, in this country are still liberal and happy with Obama. We would have to settle with their skewed views and ridiculous leftist agenda.

      -W

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cracker View Post
        You honestly think a new constitutional convention would yield a "better" constitution? Too many people think our constitution is outdated, symbolic, and a "living" document.

        All we would get is our current constitution shredded and a more tyrannical one put in place. That is a goal of the New World Order. Kill personal rights, kill private property, kill US sovreignty. Keep in mind, half of the people, if not more, in this country are still liberal and happy with Obama. We would have to settle with their skewed views and ridiculous leftist agenda.

        -W
        I agree with this man, our Constitution is just fine the way it is.

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        • #5
          "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
          The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
          wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
          they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
          it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
          And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
          warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
          resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
          to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
          in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
          time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
          It is its natural manure."
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          • #6
            Save the constitution

            Dissent is the highest form of patriotism

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cracker View Post
              You honestly think a new constitutional convention would yield a "better" constitution? Too many people think our constitution is outdated, symbolic, and a "living" document.

              All we would get is our current constitution shredded and a more tyrannical one put in place. That is a goal of the New World Order. Kill personal rights, kill private property, kill US sovreignty. Keep in mind, half of the people, if not more, in this country are still liberal and happy with Obama. We would have to settle with their skewed views and ridiculous leftist agenda.

              -W
              This. We'd never end up with anything better, only garbage. We just need to take down the big banks and get back to the gold standard. Wouldn't solve all the problems but it would be a damn good start.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cracker View Post

                Dissent is the highest form of patriotism
                The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost invariably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And if he is not romantic personally, he is apt to spread discontent among those who are.
                Originally posted by lincolnboy
                After watching Games of Thrones, makes me glad i was not born in those years.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cracker View Post
                  You honestly think a new constitutional convention would yield a "better" constitution? Too many people think our constitution is outdated, symbolic, and a "living" document.

                  All we would get is our current constitution shredded and a more tyrannical one put in place. That is a goal of the New World Order. Kill personal rights, kill private property, kill US sovreignty. Keep in mind, half of the people, if not more, in this country are still liberal and happy with Obama. We would have to settle with their skewed views and ridiculous leftist agenda.

                  -W
                  Whoa... slow your roll there, buddy.

                  In the article, it said:

                  "In that scenario, short of repeal, the only remaining way to fight the law would be to amend the Constitution. Given how polarized the modern U.S. Senate is, it's highly unlikely that a proposed amendment would garner the necessary 67 votes needed to amend the Constitution in the traditional manner. Yet the Founding Fathers left the states one last check on federal power"

                  I was responding to that text - the check on federal power. The law talks about creating amendments to the constitution - not replacing it.

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                  • #10
                    A Constitutional Convention is the absolute worst thing we could do right now. We would end up with a Constitution that is focused on corporate interests and the almighty dollar.

                    Philip Klein is out of his friggin mind.

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