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    Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
    Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again


    It could be a game-changer.

    A plan in Arizona to require presidential candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is approaching critical mass, even though it has just been introduced.

    The proposal from state Rep. Judy Burges, who carried a similar plan that fell short last year only because of political maneuvering, was introduced yesterday with 16 members of the state Senate as co-sponsors.

    It needs only 16 votes in the Senate to pass.


    In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn't wish to be listed as co-sponsors.

    The critical phrases are "natural born citizen" and the requirements of "article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States," which imposes on the president a requirement not demanded of other state and federal officeholders.

    There have been dozens of lawsuits and challenges over the fact that Obama's "natural born citizen" status never has been documented. The "Certification of Live Birth" his campaign posted online is a document that Hawaii has made available to those not born in the state.

    The result is that none of the court cases to date has reached the level of discovery, through which Obama's birth documentation could be brought into court.

    Obama even continued to withhold the information during a court-martial of a military officer, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who challenged his deployment orders on the grounds Obama may not be a legitimate president. Lakin was convicted and sent to prison.

    Burges told WND she's asked the proposal to be assigned to the Government Committee.

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    The Arizona bill also requires attachments, "which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury," including "an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance."

    It also requires testimony that the candidate "has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America."

    "If both the candidate and the national political party committee for that candidate fail to submit and swear to the documents prescribed in this section, the secretary of state shall not place that presidential candidate's name on the ballot in this state," the state plan explains.


    WND also has reported that similar efforts are under way in Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Texas:

    Montana

    Under Montana's plan by Rep. Bob Wagner, candidates would have to document their eligibility and also provide for protection for state taxpayers to prevent them from being billed for "unnecessary expense and litigation" involving the failure of 'federal election officials' to do their duty.


    Pennsylvania

    In Pennsylvania, there was excitement over the GOP majority of both houses of the state legislature as well as the governor's office.

    Assemblyman Daryl Metcalfe told WND he is working on a proposal that would demand documentation of constitutional eligibility.

    "We hope we would be able to pass this legislation and put it into law before the next session," he said.

    He said any one of the states imposing such a requirement would be effective in solving his concerns.

    "I think the public relations nightmare that would ensue if any candidate would thumb their noses at a single state would torpedo their campaign," he told WND.

    Georgia

    Rep. Mark Hatfield has confirmed to WND that he will have a similar proposal pending.


    He had introduced the legislation at the end of last year's session to put fellow lawmakers on alert that the issue was coming.

    "I do plan to reintroduce the bill," he told WND. "We'll move forward with trying to get it before a committee."

    In Georgia, Republicans hold majorities in both house of the legislature as well as "every constitutional statewide office," he noted.


    "I would be optimistic that we can [adopt the legislation]," he said.

    "My goal is to make sure any person that aspires to be president meets the constitutional requirements," he said. "This is a first step in that direction."

    Texas

    WND reported on a bill prefiled for the Texas Legislature by Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, that would require such documentation.

    Berman's legislation, House Bill 295, is brief and simple:

    It would add to the state election code the provision: "The secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen."

    It includes an effective date of Sept. 1, 2011, in time for 2012 presidential campaigning.


    State Rep. Leo Berman

    Berman told WND he's seen neither evidence nor indication that Obama qualifies under the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born citizen."

    "If the federal government is not going to vet these people, like they vetted John McCain, we'll do it in our state," he said.


    He noted the Senate's investigation into McCain because of the Republican senator's birth in Panama to military parents.

    "If Obama is going to run for re-election in 2012, he'll have to show our secretary of state his birth certificate and prove he's a natural-born citizen," he said. "This is going to be significant."

    Berman said he's convinced there are problems with Obama's eligibility, or else his handlers would not be so persistent in keeping the information concealed.

    But Orly Taitz, the California lawyer who has worked on a number of the highest-profile legal challenges to Obama, said efforts are under way now in Missouri and Oklahoma, too.

    She said the bill is expected to be successful in Missouri where there is a GOP majority in the legislature and a GOP governor's office, and in Oklahoma, where last year a similar plan failed by only one vote in the state Senate.


    There also was, during the last Congress, Rep. Bill Posey's bill at the federal level.

    Posey's H.R. 1503 stated:

    "To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."

    The bill also provided:

    "Congress finds that under … the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."

    It had more than a dozen sponsors, and while it died at the end of the last Congress, there are hopes the GOP majority in the House this year will move such a plan forward.

    There also is a petition, already signed by tens of thousands, to state lawmakers asking them to make sure the next president of the United States qualifies under the Constitution's eligibility requirements.

    An earlier petition had been directed at all controlling legal authorities at the federal level to address the concerns expressed by Americans, and it attracted more than half a million names.

    For 18 months, Farah has been one of the few national figures who has steadfastly pushed the issue of eligibility, despite ridicule, name-calling and ostracism at the hands of most of his colleagues. To date, in addition to the earlier petition, he has:

    * erected billboards around the country demanding, "Where's the birth certificate?":

    * produced a 40-page special report on the subject;

    * produced a 60-minute documentary video primer on the issue;

    * manufactured yard and rally signs to bring attention to the topic;

    * pledged to donate at least $15,000 to any hospital in Hawaii or anywhere else that provides proof Obama was born there and given you an opportunity to raise the amount;

    * created a line of T-shirts you can wear to appearances by the president to raise visibility of the issue;

    * created a fund to which you can donate to further the kind of investigative reporting into this matter only this company has performed over the last two years;

    * launched a line of postcards you can use to keep the issue alive;

    * distributed thousands of bumper stickers asking, "Where's the birth certificate?"

    Farah says all those campaigns are continuing.

    "Obama may be able to continue showing contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law for the next two years, as he has demonstrated his willingness to do in his first year in office," he wrote in a column. "However, a day of reckoning is coming. Even if only one significant state, with a sizable Electoral College count, decides a candidate for election or re-election has failed to prove his or her eligibility, that makes it nearly impossible for the candidate to win. It doesn't take all 50 states complying with the law to be effective."
    Last edited by sc281; 01-25-2011, 07:46 PM.

  • #2
    So is he a citizen or what? Is this just rhetoric?

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    • #3
      Too much to read. Seriously.

      Yes, I'm that pathetic at night with a few beers.
      Originally posted by MR EDD
      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dave View Post
        So is he a citizen or what? Is this just rhetoric?
        He's never provided the Long form birth certificate that proves he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be President under Article 2 section 1 of the constitution.

        These states are making sure that he doesn't run again without providing the proof.

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        • #5
          Because he never changed his name back to BHO from Barry Soetoro. He has lied this whole time about his name.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
            Because he never changed his name back to BHO from Barry Soetoro. He has lied this whole time about his name.
            we have ourselves a bingo

            He lied in college to get preferential treatment as a black man using the name BHO and he used the name B Soetoro to get scholarships. Basically played the system to be more black than he is and more foreign than he is to suit his needs.
            Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
              Because he never changed his name back to BHO from Barry Soetoro. He has lied this whole time about his name.
              If he did that, then there is also the possibility that his mother gave up their citizenship as well.

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              • #8
                I would imagine that he has the resources now to make a long form birth certificate up by now.

                However, if he does produce one, what about when he denounced his citizenship to go to school in Indonesia? Doesn't that take him out of the running?
                Last edited by Snatch Napkin; 01-26-2011, 11:51 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Muffrazr View Post
                  I would imagine that he has the resources now to make a long form birth certificate up by now.

                  However, if he does produce one, what about when he denounced his citizenship to go to school in India? Doesn't that take him out of the running?
                  Indonesia

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                  • #10
                    does obama have any chance in hell at winning arizona? NO

                    then why waste time money and resources on something like this? I am sure there are more pressing matters that the arizona legislature should be attending to. their state is out of money, you would think that would be priority number 1. A law like this will cost the state millions in legal challenges, after all lawyers do not work for free, yet they wonder why they are out of money

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Denny View Post
                      Indonesia
                      I felt like I was saying the wrong place, but failed to look it up in my hastiness to get work done.

                      Thanks.

                      So how does that work?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
                        does obama have any chance in hell at winning arizona? NO

                        then why waste time money and resources on something like this? I am sure there are more pressing matters that the arizona legislature should be attending to. their state is out of money, you would think that would be priority number 1. A law like this will cost the state millions in legal challenges, after all lawyers do not work for free, yet they wonder why they are out of money
                        Things such as this are worth the fight. It doesn't matter if he doesn't have a chance in Arizona. This needs to be a group effort across the United States.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Muffrazr View Post
                          I felt like I was saying the wrong place, but failed to look it up in my hastiness to get work done.

                          Thanks.

                          So how does that work?
                          That's a good question.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
                            does obama have any chance in hell at winning arizona? NO

                            then why waste time money and resources on something like this? I am sure there are more pressing matters that the arizona legislature should be attending to. their state is out of money, you would think that would be priority number 1. A law like this will cost the state millions in legal challenges, after all lawyers do not work for free, yet they wonder why they are out of money
                            we can't let people keep running over the constitution...

                            if we don't all chip in our buck o' five, who will?
                            http://www.truthcontest.com/entries/...iversal-truth/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cannonball996 View Post
                              does obama have any chance in hell at winning arizona? NO

                              then why waste time money and resources on something like this? I am sure there are more pressing matters that the arizona legislature should be attending to. their state is out of money, you would think that would be priority number 1. A law like this will cost the state millions in legal challenges, after all lawyers do not work for free, yet they wonder why they are out of money
                              In hopes for a domino effect. Look at the health care lawsuits.

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