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  • Open carry guys, winning the war..... for the other side

    These morons are starting to really get on my nerves. They're fucking it up for all of us:




    Two long-gun open carriers in Dallas put Mexican restaurant chain Chipotle in a no-win situation this past weekend, resulting in the chain deciding Monday to follow Starbucks’ lead in asking gun owners to leave their guns at home:

    Chipotle is asking customers not to bring firearms into its stores after it says gun rights advocates brought military-style assault rifles into one of its restaurants in Texas.

    The Denver-based company notes that it has traditionally complied with local laws regarding open and concealed firearms.

    But in a statement Monday, the company said that “the display of firearms in our restaurants has now created an environment that is potentially intimidating or uncomfortable for many of our customers.”

    The announcement came after a petition by Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, which has called on other companies to ban firearms in their stores as well. The group said its petition was in reaction to open-carry gun activists appearing at a Dallas-area Chipotle restaurant over the weekend.

    I’m sure that it didn’t help that the shorter of the two was carrying his weapon at a low ready—arguably “Brandishing” under Texas law—and also has a Facebook page where he seems to reference wanting to do drugs and to sell drugs, which gun control supporters capitalized upon in obvious delight.



    I want you to think about something. Moms Demand Action’s limited success in the past year seems directly related to capitalizing on the behavior of rifle open carriers again and again. Despite claims of local success from rifle open carry supporters in the areas where they are carried out, it is clear that the tactic is clearly and unambiguously doing far more damage to the cause of gun rights on a national level.

    Should we continue supporting tactics that consistently result in wave upon wave of stories portraying gun owners in the worst possible light, lead to the implementation of policies that negatively affect the relationship between gun owners and otherwise neutral businesses and the general public, and gives gun control groups the oxygen they need to keep from slipping into irrelevance?

    A Bearing Arms reader emailed the following suggestion as an alternative undertaking (I’ve added some paragraph breaks to aid reading):

    The largest “sure thing” with winning people over is that the method of protest needs to change. Groups of people open carrying is difficult to approach, even for people who support gun rights, and scares people away much faster than anything else that activists do.

    I was thinking that the best thing to do would be more akin to a festival than a protest, high energy, family appeal, and then do classes on gun safety and things like that in an environment that makes it easy to forget that “really pushy person who tried to force his opinion on you”. That would be approachable for people who’re on the fence about the issue or curious about the event, and allow advocates to spread their views in a friendlier environment. This would create fun moments associated with meeting activists rather than a bunch of people crowding you with signs…

    People who lean towards gun control but aren’t full blown “advocates” would naturally be more open to what the gun rights groups have to say if they clearly become the more approachable group, then simple use that opportunity to explain that they’re trying to save lives and not just to hold onto something other people may not understand a need for.

    Generally people tense up and become very uncomfortable when they see a large group of protesters holding signs (or guns). That makes them want to avoid it or get through it as quickly as possible, which means taking in little to no actual information about the issue. I feel the best way to spread a message would be to hold a celebration welcoming all the people you’re trying to win to your side. A celebration is also much harder for the media to cast in an extremely poor light, but if well planned could still get a lot media coverage.

    I don’t know if this festival model will win a lot of converts, but it will certainly do less damage than the current practice of long-gun open carry which is steadily losing ground for us not just in the locations where it is practiced, but on a national level.


    And here's where these fucktards give the media some great fuel for the fire:

    Journalism is an integral part of the modern political process. Political journalists form the information picture, shape the domestic political and international agenda.

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    Yeah, they are creating a shitstorm that gun owners don't need. If I'm concealed, I'm still carrying, but the open carry crowd is too stupid to understand that they are ruining it for everyone.

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    • #3
      Douche bag. Come walking into a restaurant at the low ready and soon someone is going to draw on you first and it could escalate into the dumbass open carry dick bag catching a bullet from someone protecting their family. Wanna protest on the street? Fine go be a douche AWAY from me. Come walking into a place where I am and you are now a threat to me with your stupid behavior. I don't care if you have a shit eating grin on your face. Someone needs to prone fucks like that out on the dirty floor and make them their bitch.

      in before, it is their constitutional right bullshit.
      Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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      • #4
        Those two guys really look like they should be holding those guns.

        FYI, thats the chipotle in downtown Dallas by the West End. Perfect place for them to stroll around.

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        • #5
          I still haven't seen a single person open carry since they legalized it in OK.

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          • #6
            up here i tend to see the hillbillys open carrying in home depot and tractor supply, but as stated i'm much more comfortable with a holstered pistol than a rifle (with mag) being carried around haphazardly.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by lowthreeohz View Post
              up here i tend to see the hillbillys open carrying in home depot and tractor supply, but as stated i'm much more comfortable with a holstered pistol than a rifle (with mag) being carried around haphazardly.
              exactly.

              god bless.
              It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men -Frederick Douglass

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              • #8
                They really need to choose better examples for their Open Carry PR campaign. The runt with the SKS is feeding the anti-gunners like a Golden Corral buffet with that Facebook page of his.

                Like I said in the other thread... retards with guns.
                Originally posted by PGreenCobra
                I can't get over the fact that you get to go live the rest of your life, knowing that someone made a Halloween costume out of you. LMAO!!
                Originally posted by Trip McNeely
                Originally posted by dsrtuckteezy
                dont downshift!!
                Go do a whooly in front of a Peterbilt.

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                • #9
                  What if they really are against the second amendment and this is their way of shutting it down?

                  The group that called for Chipotle to take actaion, Moms Demanding Action (which would be a good name for a porn site) is directly funded by http://everytown.org/ which is funded by Michael Bloomberg.

                  They just got well over a billion dollars worth of free media exposure thanks to these two turds.

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                  • #10
                    Retards with long guns

                    BP has it FIGURED OUT ! Wake up, just look at those pathetic Assholes. Liberal written all over them.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                      Yeah, they are creating a shitstorm that gun owners don't need. If I'm concealed, I'm still carrying, but the open carry crowd is too stupid to understand that they are ruining it for everyone.
                      There just isn't any talking to these jackasses. The one and only fix is to start writing your state senators and have them draft a bill that makes open carry of any kind illegal when taking part in a demonstration or protest. That is the only thing that will stop them. I have tried to talk to some of them and they scream Constitution over and over again, then accuse you of being afraid of guns.

                      I for one do not support open carry of any kind, I like to keep my gun concealed.

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                      • #12
                        Shortly after I posted the last comment it was deleted and I was banned form the page.

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                        • #13
                          Fuck those neck bearded mall ninjas.. They are idiots.
                          ازدهار رأسه برعشيت

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                          • #14
                            These dudes are like South Park caricatures.
                            ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                            • #15
                              Who is down to follow their protest around wearing sandwich boards that say "These idiots do not speak for gun owners" or something of the like.

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