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jewozzy 02-21-2019 06:35 PM

Programmers enter
 
So my work is willing to pay to send me somewhere to learn some coding... Very broad and open for interpretation I know.

I'm wanting to find somewhere local (preferably a half day) to start with python, Java, and c or c++.

Other than some of the local colleges is there anywhere you guys suggest? I've found plent of online sources but if I could get a classroom setting that may work better for me.

Flame on.

Ruffdaddy 02-21-2019 09:02 PM

Bootcamp!!!!

jewozzy 02-21-2019 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffdaddy (Post 1713592)
Bootcamp!!!!

I've heard mixed reviews on them. Being that I'll be coming from no experience I don't see that it could be a negative. Annnnd since the company will pay for it I'd be fine with that too. But I also haven't seen any that are non web development ones which would only be of very minimal use for what I need this for.

Truthfully a powershell, vb, and python course would get the most of the way.

GeorgeG. 02-22-2019 08:45 AM

I'm not a coder by any means but I would think C and C++ would be long outdated. I'm sure there's still old systems using it but unless it's to support something at your work, I'd look at what's new.

I actually just reread your post. Is there something specific they want you to support?

jewozzy 02-22-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeG. (Post 1713607)
I'm not a coder by any means but I would think C and C++ would be long outdated. I'm sure there's still old systems using it but unless it's to support something at your work, I'd look at what's new.

I actually just reread your post. Is there something specific they want you to support?

Yeah, its for an in-house system we use. Overall I would need to get familiar with .NET, Powershell, C, C#, Java, Javascript, Python and VB.

If i could get familiar with VB, Powershell, and Python early on though that would help get me in the right direction.

Ruffdaddy 02-22-2019 09:36 AM

Isnt python just a prettied up variant of C?

Either way C based programming is probably more common than people realize for embedded hardware.

jewozzy 02-22-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruffdaddy (Post 1713611)
Isnt python just a prettied up variant of C?

Either way C based programming is probably more common than people realize for embedded hardware.

I have always heard that it was kind of like the grand daddy of programming and that it was always good to have knowledge on it.

Nash B. 02-22-2019 12:52 PM

I'd start with Java. It'll give you a solid foundation in object oriented programming without all the bells and whistles of C# (my favorite language for building just about anything heavier than shell scripts) but not quite as bare bones as C/C++. From there it'll be easy to go up to C# and not too bad to go down to C/C++. You can fill in the gaps on Powershell, VB, Python and JavaScript with Google

Nash B. 02-22-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jewozzy (Post 1713612)
I have always heard that it was kind of like the grand daddy of programming and that it was always good to have knowledge on it.

It's about as close to machine language as you can get without going down to assembly. Powerful and lightweight, which is why it's still popular in systems with limited resources

jewozzy 02-22-2019 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nash B. (Post 1713623)
I'd start with Java. It'll give you a solid foundation in object oriented programming without all the bells and whistles of C# (my favorite language for building just about anything heavier than shell scripts) but not quite as bare bones as C/C++. From there it'll be easy to go up to C# and not too bad to go down to C/C++. You can fill in the gaps on Powershell, VB, Python and JavaScript with Google

Do you recommend anywhere in-particular for learning Java? I know of the big online free resources but since work is willing to pay for it i'd rather find an ass in seat type place but preferably not a college due to it usually being night courses.

Nash B. 02-22-2019 02:13 PM

No, no idea. PluralSight is a great resource for learning about specific things, though.

JV106 02-22-2019 07:22 PM

I took a computer engineering class at A&M my freshman year, spring of 2004. They just hired the guy that developed c++ - Bjorne Strustroup was his name, he was our professor and a complete weirdo. There were probably 350 ppl in the class maybe more, on the first exam 2 ppl of the 350 got an A. I think I made a 25 on that test. He cured me of wanting to program for a living.

Nash B. 02-22-2019 07:40 PM

Lol damn

BradM 02-22-2019 07:44 PM

I used to be able to program vcr's.

Gasser64 02-23-2019 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruffdaddy (Post 1713611)
Isnt python just a prettied up variant of C?

Not even close lol. The c languages are still around for various reasons, one of the main ones being hardware. Python is a "general purpose" language, you can basically do anything with it. But depending on what it is, it may not be very fast. Then again that is also changing, as the hardware itself gets faster and is overcoming that limit, so that the user just won't notice that its running slower, since its still faster than a human can perceive. I'd say if you're looking to learn python, you're good in terms of what's going to be in use for the next 10-15 years. I'm currently learning python three (coming over from python 2) but apparently there isn't a whole lot of difference. Python is also a big one for machine learning these days.

Ruffdaddy 02-23-2019 07:56 AM

I was partly speaking in hyperbole...but of you're not aware that python was influenced by C then you've never programmed in either...or read about python in general.

Ruffdaddy 02-23-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasser64 (Post 1713652)
Not even close lol....yadda yadda yadda...Python is a "general purpose" language, you can basically do....

Since you spent the time to Google what python is...you should do the same for C...

Tx Redneck 02-23-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruffdaddy (Post 1713656)
Since you spent the time to Google what python is...you should do the same for C...

Lmao

Gasser64 02-23-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffdaddy (Post 1713655)
I was partly speaking in hyperbole...but of you're not aware that python was influenced by C then you've never programmed in either...or read about python in general.

I've done far more than you ever will, no question. Also go here and try to tell them what you're telling me. See how that works out. "Influenced" lol. Try to be even more vague, its your only hope.

https://python-forum.io/index.php

jewozzy 02-23-2019 09:01 PM

Y'all take your nerd fight somewhere else!

Haha seriously though, any recommendations on places? Java, python, anything?!?


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