Jeez! Ford hasn't even put it in a truck yet and it already has "ticking" issues. At least that what the narrator says at the beginning of the video.
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Originally posted by Torinoman View PostThe FE 427 cammers were pretty competetive but Ford failed to support them the way Hemi got mopar support.
The Shotgun 429 was never real competative because it came out after hemi had years of development, support and experience. Then Ford pulled the plug on all racing shortly after thereafter.
GM didnt officially race much in the 60s so the BBC faced similar support issues, though without a hemi style head it wasn't going to be competative any way.
To say these motors just exploded and the hemi didnt and thats the only reason hemi was successful is intentionally obtuse.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by svauto-erotic855 View PostGo fuck yourself.
What part do you think is bullshit?
They tried to run the Ford 427 FE series of engines in Top Fuel back in the sixties. The engine block wouldn't survive a single pass. Same thing with the Boss 429 and the big block Chevy. The earlier 392 HEMI had buckets of bottom end strength also and it was copied by the aftermarket and used in Top Fuel for many years.
For making power no conventional combustion chamber beats the pent roof four valve chamber and a true hemispherical combustion chamber is as bad as you can possibly make a chamber when it comes to brake specific fuel consumption."If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses." - Henry Ford
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Originally posted by Baron Von Crowder View Post430 mel.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by Torinoman View PostJon Kaase did win the last 2 Engine Masters with a MEL.
What cylinder head did he use? Did he find an engine with similar bore spacing and use that head?Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by Torinoman View PostJon Kaase did win the last 2 Engine Masters with a MEL.Originally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostYeah well what about that sohc 600 hp engine ford had in the... 60's? 70's? Can't remember. How come they never pushed that to the forefront
It was used in top fuel and they had to replace the entire engine after every run. Nitro methanol is simply too rough on the bottom end. I've seen the same engine on gasoline making almost 1800 horsepower without missing a lick and I think the Top Fuel engines back in the day were not making much more than that.Last edited by svauto-erotic855; 02-13-2019, 08:47 AM.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostAnd in 2016 second place was a ~400 cube Chrysler hemi. Which is surprising since that would make it seem like SVO has no idea what he is talking about.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by svauto-erotic855 View PostThat's really surprising. Have you ever seen one taken apart? I have and I can't imagine trying to get power out of that engine the way the head is set up.
What cylinder head did he use? Did he find an engine with similar bore spacing and use that head?
1971 Ford Torino - Time to go bigger and better.
2011 F150 Limited - Stock with a 6.2
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Originally posted by svauto-erotic855 View PostThat was the Cammer 427 SOHC and I have owned 2.
I've seen the same engine on gasoline making almost 1800 horsepower without missing a lick...WH
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Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostAre they more reliable when running on gas? If so it seems like Ford really missed an opportunity with that engine. To dominate the competition in muscle cars. Maybe even put it in those big lincoln boats or something. But they never did. Hell even now those power numbers are respectable.
The ones that I owned where the Marine versions and I had to buy an old piece of shit Chris-Craft Cruiser just to get the engines out of. The owner did not realize that the engines were worth several times with the boat was worth.
Edit: The most amazing series of engines that I have ever dealt with are the Ford FEs. Many of their features were ahead of their time even by today's standards and Fords Engineers really burned the Midnight Oil designing some of the more elaborate set ups that the engine was available with.Last edited by svauto-erotic855; 02-13-2019, 11:15 AM.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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Originally posted by svauto-erotic855 View PostThe 427 blocks were incredibly difficult to cast; I believe the rejection rate was over 60%. The Cammer engine is the easiest engine to tune I have ever had on a dyno. It is insensitive to ignition timing and requires very little and it doesn't really care what the mixture is. The one making close to 1800 horsepower was one that I tuned. With two shity carburetors the engines made a little over 640 horsepower out of the box from Ford. The one that I worked on had cylinder head work, different cams, a gear setup to turn the cams and no other mods to speak of. It made the number I quoted with less than 20 lb of boost and I'm sure I could have passed Ford's durability test with that engine.
The ones that I owned where the Marine versions and I had to buy an old piece of shit Chris-Craft Cruiser just to get the engines out of. The owner did not realize that the engines were worth several times with the boat was worth.
Edit: The most amazing series of engines that I have ever dealt with are the Ford FEs. Many of their features were ahead of their time even by today's standards and Fords Engineers really burned the Midnight Oil designing some of the more elaborate set ups that the engine was available with.1971 Ford Torino - Time to go bigger and better.
2011 F150 Limited - Stock with a 6.2
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DrOriginally posted by Torinoman View PostFeatures like the valvecovers bolting to the intake? Or the pushrods going through the intake? Or the terrible oiling system? Or the goofy valve layout?
Edit: The oiling system was only bad on the hydraulic lifter engines that were never intended for high RPM. Solid lifter engines or the side Oiler engines did not have a problem with oiling. Getting the oiling system up to snuff was also pretty easy.
Edit II: I must admit the sealing an FE intake manifold is an exercise in frustration and kind of an art. It wasn't so bad when I first started working on these engines and the parts were new but years down the road when cylinder heads have been milled along with decks it's becoming a real bitch to do right.Last edited by svauto-erotic855; 02-13-2019, 02:02 PM.Magnus, I am your father. You need to ask your mother about a man named Calvin Klein.
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