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We only lost power for 3 hours on Sunday, and haven't had a blip since. Thank God.
Originally posted by Strychnine View PostExcept it's not really random. There's the Texas Interconnect (grid) and within that there are tons of different different divisions. The demand has been so far above capacity that not only wasn't there enough juice to keep everyone live, there wasn't even enough for rolling blackouts, so any "small chunk" that had an emergency service was prioritized. Live near a hospital - you got electrons by default. Live near a water pumping station or wastewater treatment plant, and you're golden... live in a housing subdivision surrounded by other subdivisions? Sorry 'bout your bad luck. For quite a while yesterday and last night there was so little excess capacity that there was no "rolling" happening, it was just "keep basic services alive."
ERCOT shit the bed on this one. Remember the R stands for 'reliability'
I'd be REAL curious to see the grids and who's on what."Self-government won't work without self-discipline." - Paul Harvey
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Originally posted by Mach1 View PostIm in county near Royse City, zero outages, no idea why we are holding up, Collin County.
Farmer's Electric Coop
Sent from my SM-G973U using TapatalkOriginally posted by LeahBest balls I've had in my mouth in a while.
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Originally posted by lincolnboy View PostI would think turn power back on would take a big power trip to turn on power. So, yeah rate will go up. Just like any power source it has full power at begin until it settles down. Just imagine your hard on, at first its hard then when job is done its back down to size!!!
I will have to find the link. In 2008, after requesting rolling blackouts. They paid $324,000 in fines resulting from a compliance audit launched because of the rolling blackout request.
In 2019 they were sued by a company over the request for power plants to be built, which they ultimately decided they didn't need, after construction started. Result of the lawsuit, the plaintiff discovered that ERCOT is a sovereign entity and they have no recourse. That trial, s far as I know, is still waiting a decision on their sovereignty from the Texas supreme court.
Sent from my SM-G973U using TapatalkOriginally posted by LeahBest balls I've had in my mouth in a while.
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Since Sunday night/Monday morning we have been on an average of 45 on / 45 off schedule... Sometimes I get 30 off and 60 on but I also had 2.5 hours off yesterday. We have gas range, water heater, and furnace and the only time it's been a problem was this morning when all the neighborhood idiots were using their gas log fireplace wasting gas and producing next to no heat.
I've gone through quite a bit of my firewood but I've got enough to last the rest of the week. No pipe issues yet other than my outdoor faucets are frozen but not sure if damaged/burst, not sure if there's a way to tell until it thaws?
Oh, and I'm in Little Elm, like 432/Eldorado area on Coserv cause it's them or nothing.Originally posted by stevoNot a good idea to go Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor on the power phallus.
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Originally posted by Strychnine View PostExcept it's not really random. There's the Texas Interconnect (grid) and within that there are tons of different different divisions. The demand has been so far above capacity that not only wasn't there enough juice to keep everyone live, there wasn't even enough for rolling blackouts, so any "small chunk" that had an emergency service was prioritized. Live near a hospital - you got electrons by default. Live near a water pumping station or wastewater treatment plant, and you're golden... live in a housing subdivision surrounded by other subdivisions? Sorry 'bout your bad luck. For quite a while yesterday and last night there was so little excess capacity that there was no "rolling" happening, it was just "keep basic services alive."
ERCOT shit the bed on this one. Remember the R stands for 'reliability'
I just find it all to be too convenient that when the price of spot electricity goes through the roof, all of a sudden there is a shortage and we need blackouts. This is due to natural gas wellheads freezing from what I have read.
If I was a "utility company" that didn't own any production and had made a bet on rates via fixed rate contracts and I realized I was going to go bankrupt, the first call I would make would be to ERCOT to see if I could convince them that there just isn't enough natural gas available. You can't lose money if the meter doesn't run.
It sounds like a conspiracy theory until you ask people who have natural gas in their home for heating if there is an actual shortage of natural gas. I have not heard of anyone having their natural gas shut off. I haven't heard of anyone having interrupted service. I guess those natural gas wells didn't freeze. I have been running my stove top and my fire place non stop.
The Highland Park thing is just another data point in all this. Those people DO call each other when things like this inconvenience them. I fully expect that some of the Ercot board members live there. None of this sort of shit happens by accident based on my time in working with those people.Originally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by Cobraman View Post19?? Did you leave the windows open?
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostThe whole system is made up of mini grids from what I gather.
I just find it all to be too convenient that when the price of spot electricity goes through the roof, all of a sudden there is a shortage and we need blackouts. This is due to natural gas wellheads freezing from what I have read.
If I was a "utility company" that didn't own any production and had made a bet on rates via fixed rate contracts and I realized I was going to go bankrupt, the first call I would make would be to ERCOT to see if I could convince them that there just isn't enough natural gas available. You can't lose money if the meter doesn't run.
It sounds like a conspiracy theory until you ask people who have natural gas in their home for heating if there is an actual shortage of natural gas. I have not heard of anyone having their natural gas shut off. I haven't heard of anyone having interrupted service. I guess those natural gas wells didn't freeze. I have been running my stove top and my fire place non stop.
The Highland Park thing is just another data point in all this. Those people DO call each other when things like this inconvenience them. I fully expect that some of the Ercot board members live there. None of this sort of shit happens by accident based on my time in working with those people.
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Soooo, two days ago we lost power. It was out for 8 hours the day before that and then they started rolling power on for 6 minutes then tapping it off for about 10 seconds. Just enough to turn everyone's heaters off and blow up my refrigerator. My new Train was still kicking ass until the neighborhood went dead. My mom in Duncanville, the same thing, glad I had a cord of seasoned fire wood I took her last week. I have a natural gas fire place and it is big as fuck but not efficient. My faucets are dripping and and I have NG water heater which is lifesaving also. I am sitting at 48 degrees tonight so not horrible. Wife and dogs are at her parents in the nice part of town with zero issues. I whipped out my generator tonight, thought I could run my furnace on it since it is 120 and it even has a plug. My neighbor mentioned it to me tonight and I got excited. Well hell no the AC unit doesn't detect a ground. Something about the GFCI on it or who the fuck knows. Pond frozen solid, pool frozen, the anti freeze system no bueno with no power. Luckily it was sucking air from the last time it froze and blew the pipes off. Maybe when it powered down I had enough room for expansion. Just trying to keep the ole fort alive here. Currently using the genny to save my fish in the house and type this ole message.
Go to work, move the elderly around with no power, clear accidents, water mains blowing everywhere or frozen, trying to keep the station from freezing up, get home, try and save the house. Rinse wash repeat. Oh yeah I need to go order a fridge! The good news is I moved most of my good s to work so I make my coffee and breakfast there when I get in and then eat before I leave.
Oh and I did get a warning to try and save NG as much as possible and there are cities now running out of gasoline. Our Whataburger has been overrun every day also. 2020 said hey I got coronavirus, 2021 said hold my beer bitches.Last edited by kingjason; 02-17-2021, 04:56 AM.Whos your Daddy?
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Farmers Branch - Josey/635. We've been in the roll out since day one. We would go about 7 hrs off and about 2 hrs on. Late even yesterday is when we started getting power back on about every 4 hrs off and 2 hrs on. Its a improvement. O' tha amount of tape I stuck around our window and sliding glass door keeps us alot warmer then I was going for. Now my work ipad has Verizon service and is on LTE service and power is out again.
Good thing I woke up early and finally showered after 3 days and made coffee before the power went off. Gas company going to hate oncor for taking their business for a few days.
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Originally posted by Trip McNeely View PostWell heads don’t freeze up. Whoever wrote those articles is full of shit. I’m former o&g and that’s impossible. If that were true, the dakotas and the Marcellus shale would have half the field shut in for about 4 months out of every year. There’s so much pressure and equipment involved it’s downright impossible to freeze gas coming out of the hole. The only thing that really freezes in the field can be service equipment and water lines for fracking. Even then they run glycol heaters and heat tape. LolOriginally posted by racrguyWhat's your beef with NPR, because their listeners are typically more informed than others?Originally posted by racrguyVoting is a constitutional right, overthrowing the government isn't.
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Originally posted by Broncojohnny View PostThe stuff I read said that the water coming out of the hole with the gas is what froze the well head. Is that even possible? It sounded like bullshit to me too, mainly because of the pressures that are being dealt with.
What it is is these utility companies now are having to pay spot pricing on the market because their supply from the operators is drying up due to demand. That’s why. Guarantee it.
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