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  • #2
    What the hell. Those officers shouldn't have been working if that went down the way it says. They were in no state of mind to do their job correctly. The one that shot him is likely screwed and rightly so.

    Caregiver shot by police after toy truck mistaken for gun

    Attorney: Caregiver shot by police after toy truck mistaken for gun – WSVN 7News | Miami News, Weather, Sports | Fort Lauderdale

    NORTH MIAMI, FLA. (WSVN) - A man is recovering in the hospital after police may have mistaken a toy for a gun, causing a big misunderstanding.

    Miami-Dade Fire Rescue responded to the scene of the reported shooting, located right by a group home near Northeast 14th Avenue and 127th Street, Monday, at around 5:30 p.m.

    Witnesses and the man who was shot, Charles Kinsey, said that officials made a big mistake in this case. Kinsey’s attorney, Hilton Napoleon said that his client works with the disabled for a living and was assisting an autistic man who had a toy truck in his hand. North Miami Police may have believed the toy was a weapon, and that’s when police fired shots, hitting the caregiver in the leg.

    “He tried to explain that this is a mental health patient, that he was trying to get him back into the facility,” Napoleon said. “There was no need for firearms. He put his hands up, told them he was unarmed.”

    Kinsey was transported to Jackson Memorial Hospital where he continues to recover from wounds that were not life-threatening, Tuesday.

    “He doesn’t understand why he was shot,” Napoleon said. “He was complying. He wasn’t arrested. There are not any allegations that he resisted an officer’s command or anything like that.”

    Tuesday evening, North Miami Police released a statement that read in part, “There is preliminary information that North Miami Police Officers were dispatched to the scene after a 911 call was received of an armed male suspect threatening suicide. Arriving officers attempted to negotiate with two men on the scene, one of whom was later identified as suffering from autism. The other man was later identified as an employee of an assisted living facility. At some point during the on-scene negotiation, one of the responding officers discharged his weapon, striking the employee.”

    Witness Thomas Matthews lives nearby and said he saw the shooting unfold. “The guy was yelling, ‘Help me. Help me.’ And all of a sudden, three shots were fired. Boom, boom, boom,” he said.

    A surveillance video from a nearby business captured the scene as North Miami Beach Police arrived in the area. Matthews said Kinsey was shot 15 minutes after police arrived.

    “Police thought the guy had a weapon, but he had a toy because he was autistic,” Matthews said. “The view of the way he was holding it, it looked like a gun, but it was a toy.”

    Kinsey works at a group home near the scene. Clint Bower, the manager of the group home, said Kinsey was escorting the autistic man back to the group home where he lives. “My employee apparently was walking down 14th Avenue with this individual who lives in the group home,” he said. “He’s about 23 years old, he’s autistic, he’s non-verbal, he’s relatively low-functioning, and that’s really all we know.”

    According to Kinsey’s attorney, he tried to explain to police that he was helping the autistic man back to his home and was laying down on the ground with his hands in the air when he was shot.

    Bower said he believes the police officer might have mistaken a toy truck the autistic man was holding for a weapon.

    According to those who know him, Kinsey is actively involved in the Circle of Brotherhood, a non-profit organization that reaches out to youth and prepares them for the future.

    They were shocked to hear about what happened overnight, according to 7News sources.

    According to Napoleon, a neighbor called police and mistakenly claimed that the autistic person had a gun. “There was no gun,” Napoleon said. “There wasn’t even a toy gun; it was a toy truck.”

    Police confirmed that they received a 911 call just prior to the shooting, Monday. “Officers responded to the scene, in emergency mode in reference to a man with a gun,” North Miami Police spokesperson Natalie Buissereth said.

    Bloody clothes could be seen in the middle of the road near the apartment complex. Police tape was put up and a crime scene unit was in the area taking pictures.

    The road at 14th Avenue between 123rd and 125th was temporarily closed due to the investigation. It was later reopened.

    Police said the investigation into the shooting remains ongoing. “Right now, they’re collecting all of the evidence,” Buissereth said.

    No officers were injured during the shooting, according to a police spokesperson.

    In their statement, North Miami Police said the officer who discharged his firearm “has been placed on administrative leave.”

    They also encouraged any witnesses to come forward. “The investigation continues with the assistance of the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office. Anyone who has additional information, or may have witnessed the incident is asked to call the North Miami Police Department,” the statement read

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    • #3
      Try being a cop for a day or stfu. So easy to be a mr know it all but when it's your ass worried about dying everyday it's different. What do you two clowns do for a living? Probably some safe job hiding behind a desk judging shit you know nothing about. Until you have the balls to do what they do you should keep your pie holes shut

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      • #4
        Yeah gonna have to jump on the fuck the police bandwaggon here. Black dude is on the ground spread eagle saying he does not have weapons. Autistic white guy is not listening, seems confused, and is holding a toy truck waving it around. White guy's truck is mistaken for a gun, so the cop shoots the black man.
        I don't like Republicans, but I really FUCKING hate Democrats.


        Sex with an Asian woman is great, but 30 minutes later you're horny again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
          Try being a cop for a day or stfu. So easy to be a mr know it all but when it's your ass worried about dying everyday it's different. What do you two clowns do for a living? Probably some safe job hiding behind a desk judging shit you know nothing about. Until you have the balls to do what they do you should keep your pie holes shut
          I'm too much of a critical thinker and have an IQ over 125 so there is no way they would hire me. It all goes back to training, quit telling cops that they are in constant danger 24/7 and that the average person is the enemy and things like this won't happen. Also don't let facts like the number of police killed by the public is way down but the number of people shot by police is rising change you way of thinking.
          Last edited by cyclonescott; 07-20-2016, 07:57 PM.

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          • #6
            I bet at the end of the day it's an AD. Glad it was just a graze and the guy seems to be taking it well.

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            • #7
              He has a toy truck! Shoot him! FTP!

              They need to just quit hiring trigger happy pussies who are quick to pull their gun out when the going gets a little tough. I'd be a cop if the pay wasn't shit. I've been kicking around the FBI idea....
              .....bro....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dcs13 View Post
                I bet at the end of the day it's an AD. Glad it was just a graze and the guy seems to be taking it well.
                Agreed, terrible situation.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                  Try being a cop for a day or stfu. So easy to be a mr know it all but when it's your ass worried about dying everyday it's different. What do you two clowns do for a living? Probably some safe job hiding behind a desk judging shit you know nothing about. Until you have the balls to do what they do you should keep your pie holes shut
                  Are you lost?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cyclonescott View Post
                    I'm too much of a critical thinker and have an IQ over 125 so there is no way they would hire me. It all goes back to training, quit telling cops that they are in constant danger 24/7 and that the average person is the enemy and things like this won't happen. Also don't let facts like the number of police killed by the public is way down but the number of people shot by police is rising change you way of thinking.
                    Not once have I seen anyone kicked out or not hired because of their "superior" IQ. The problem with most people with high IQ's is they cannot function in police work. They are the letter of the law guys that you gentleman all hate.

                    When I was in Lancaster for ten years, lots of people thought they wanted to be police. Run a few night shifts and they would pack their shit and go home. When you have to make life changing decisions five to ten times a day, every now and then there will be mistakes. Some of you bad asses would not make it a week in LE. I do not think I am in danger 24/7; I use the totality of the situation to make my decisions. One night we handled 100 calls by five of us in 11 hours. Not bullshit meet complainants, but shots fired, assault in progress, robbery type shit. I had a guy in my Tahoe from California one night that wanted to be a cop. He was in back ground and was a big ole guy. We handled 60 calls that night with one armed carjacking, and two shootings. We caught the car jacker after a small run on the highway, one shooting victim wanted to handle it himself, and the other turned out to be a funny story (Maybe Later). He said”is it always like this?”. That guy and another recruit quit after a month.

                    What we need is for all these parents to teach their kids some god damn respect for any type of authority, from adults, to teachers, to police. Not saying it would end all police issues but it sure would clear up a lot. Yes, there are some dumb shit cops out there. But for the most part they are good people just trying to keep people safe in their homes and little bubbles they live in.

                    I have not watched the video yet. I was just addressing your reasoning for not being a cop.
                    Whos your Daddy?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                      What we need is for all these parents to teach their kids some god damn respect for any type of authority, from adults, to teachers, to police. Not saying it would end all police issues but it sure would clear up a lot. Yes, there are some dumb shit cops out there. But for the most part they are good people just trying to keep people safe in their homes and little bubbles they live in.

                      I have not watched the video yet. I was just addressing your reasoning for not being a cop.
                      Watch the video. The guy was on the ground, hands up, begging not to be shot, and still got fucking shot. That isn't a respect issue, that's a moron that doesn't need a badge and a gun.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                        Watch the video. The guy was on the ground, hands up, begging not to be shot, and still got fucking shot. That isn't a respect issue, that's a moron that doesn't need a badge and a gun.
                        Did you see a video I didn't? Seems there was a bit of a pause between all that.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kingjason View Post
                          teach their kids some god damn respect for any type of authority, from adults, to teachers, to police.
                          That would be a good start, but the court systems could use cleared up and prison should be prison. Not more violence, drug running, gangs and so forth. People who are released should not be better criminals but better citizens.

                          Edit: It is interesting though that the video goes from one scene and then bam to another. Unsure if just for censoring purposes or otherwise.
                          Originally posted by MR EDD
                          U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Craizie View Post
                            Did you see a video I didn't? Seems there was a bit of a pause between all that.
                            I noticed that too. Still didn't seem like much of a threat to me.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JC316 View Post
                              Watch the video. The guy was on the ground, hands up, begging not to be shot, and still got fucking shot. That isn't a respect issue, that's a moron that doesn't need a badge and a gun.
                              I was just commenting on the high IQ guy being to smart to be police. He still didn't say what he did for a living. There are a lot of really smart people in LE that function well, but the Sheldon types never make it. Those are also the people that would be eliminated first with out police.

                              Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                              That would be a good start, but the court systems could use cleared up and prison should be prison. Not more violence, drug running, gangs and so forth. People who are released should not be better criminals but better citizens.
                              Oh I completely agree with you.
                              Whos your Daddy?

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