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  • #31
    So should the HCG be used periodically in the higher dosage or consistently, say twice a week 250iu, for perpetuity? Is one better than the other?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by matts5.0 View Post
      I'm 28, and the last couple years I have been feelling like shit, run down, tired all the time, sex drive meh.. I feel strong in the gym, but nothing like a few years ago. Also metabolism has gone to shit. Would it be worth my time to go get tested? Who is on it? Do you like it? Best place to go?
      have you had your thyroid tested?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by lowfast View Post
        So should the HCG be used periodically in the higher dosage or consistently, say twice a week 250iu, for perpetuity? Is one better than the other?
        It's likely better to do the smaller more frequent dosing but I dont feel like sticking myself that many times a week.

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        • #34
          I have seen the protocall of people injecting the twice a week Test along with the HCG, for a single injection each time. The fill the test first and then the HCG into a single syringe, then inject. Thoughts on this?
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          • #35
            Any recommendation on docs in the DFW area (preferably Tarrant County)? I did the testing a couple years ago, and was low. My PCP put me on a gel but my insurance would not cover it without additional details from my PCP, and he essentially refused to talk to them. Out of pocket was going to be too much to maintain, budget-wise.

            I do not recall actual numbers but remember that he was very skeptical when I asked to be tested, and said something to the effect of only about 5% of those that request him to test are actually low. When my numbers came back he immediately wrote a script (andro-gel I think). The gel did help with a number of the symptoms (most of the typical ones). I was feeling good, but again, the cost was just more than was in the budget.

            I guess what I really need is a PCP or specialist that is willing to actually talk to my insurance provider, and to understand that I am not just looking for a "little blue pill"..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chili View Post
              Any recommendation on docs in the DFW area (preferably Tarrant County)? I did the testing a couple years ago, and was low. My PCP put me on a gel but my insurance would not cover it without additional details from my PCP, and he essentially refused to talk to them. Out of pocket was going to be too much to maintain, budget-wise.

              I do not recall actual numbers but remember that he was very skeptical when I asked to be tested, and said something to the effect of only about 5% of those that request him to test are actually low. When my numbers came back he immediately wrote a script (andro-gel I think). The gel did help with a number of the symptoms (most of the typical ones). I was feeling good, but again, the cost was just more than was in the budget.

              I guess what I really need is a PCP or specialist that is willing to actually talk to my insurance provider, and to understand that I am not just looking for a "little blue pill"..
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              • #37
                I started in January. Was tested at 286ng/dl and free was about 4. Tested thyroid and all the regular stuff and it all came back okay. I started 250 mg a week split into Mon/Thurs shots at .5ml a shot. I did that for 4 months and was retested. It came back 251 ng/dl. I was shocked. Bumped to 325mg per week and added HCG 250 iu twice a week. The only thing I've gotten out of it is acne on my shoulders. I am retesting Monday and should have results by the end of the week. I can't say with any certainty that I have felt any better or had more energy. I never had problems with the willy. It may help some people and I may have to be on it longer to see any real benefit. I guess we'll see.

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                • #38
                  Oh, and I'm not on any kind of AI and my E2 was 31 last test.

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                  • #39
                    ^ Something seems off, at .5ml per shot and twice a week I would think you would have hit at least 500 if not even higher. At .5ml per week my numbers bumped up close to 800. I know everyone is different but that seems like a high dose and still low results. Hope you are able to get it figured out.
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                    • #40
                      Going get blood drawn today, hopefully I'll know how this protocol is working in a few days.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by lowfast View Post
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                        I have all the same questions/concerns. Mind sending me a pm with who to use? I am with bcbs and word around work is that they cover test therapy.
                        Fuck you. We're going to Costco.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by kbscobravert View Post
                          I have all the same questions/concerns. Mind sending me a pm with who to use? I am with bcbs and word around work is that they cover test therapy.
                          I am BCBS and yes they do. Pm sent, just give me a second.
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                          • #43
                            Anyone with updates from lab results?

                            I got my lab results back today. After 4 weeks of 0.3ml of testosterone injections weekly.

                            Testosterone serum: 277
                            Estradiol: 34

                            My energy and libido are both in the shitter.

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                            • #44
                              Taking .3ml weekly is pointless. Anything less than 1- 2ml is not doing you any good.

                              How old are you?
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                              • #45
                                I'm 43

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