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Old 07-20-2011, 11:16 AM   #1
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BALTIMORE -- A mayoral candidate's plan to reduce violence in Baltimore includes a "bullet tax" that he said will increase the cost of committing a crime.

Otis Rolley said he would, if elected, propose a $1 per bullet tax on all bullet purchases in the city. The idea was part of an overall crime plan he unveiled Tuesday.


Rolley also said, according to I-Team lead investigative reporter Jayne Miller, that he's willing to touch what Miller called the third rail of Baltimore politics -- the police budget.

"This is not a revenue enhancement tool," Rolley said of the tax idea. "It's a 'make it difficult for you to buy bullets in the city' tool."

The bullet tax is part of Rolley's public safety plan, which includes a change in how the city treats some drug use. He wants to make possession of small amounts of marijuana a summary offense. That would treat the offense more like public drunkenness than a drug crime, Miller reported.
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"A lot of time, energy and effort is wasted by our courts and police officers spending time on petty crime," Rolley said. "I want them to focus on quality of life. I want them to focus in on the most violent offenders."
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Rolley promises more efficient policing in Baltimore, Miller reported.

Since 2000, the city has spent $4 billion on policing, but the city's homicide rate hasn't significantly budged, according to Miller's Tuesday report.

In 2000, the homicide rate was 40 per 100,000 people. In 2010, the rate was 36 per 100,000 people -- still among the highest in the country.

"It's more than fair to ask whether that's been a good investment, and my answer would be no," Rolley said of the $4 billion figure.

Rolley said he is willing to consider spending less on policing if it's part of what he called a "bigger plan."

"If you make cuts in public safety, you have to enhance other areas so you enhance public safety. Right now, we're not doing that."

Rolley said the bullet tax would cause a decrease in "random firings that too often happen around holidays" and put a high price tag on the cost of committing a crime.
"This is not a revenue enhancement tool. It's a 'make it difficult for you to buy bullets in the city' tool."
- Otis Rolley

"While the courts have consistently ruled against significant gun control legislation, there is still a way to decrease crime: substantially increase the cost of its commission," Rolley's plan states.

"Increasing the cost of guns won't work, because many criminals don't purchase new guns, and they can be borrowed or even rented in some areas," his plan states.

Minutes after WBALTV.com posted this story, our friends on Facebook swiftly shared their reaction.

Judy Lloyd wrote, "Taxing those trying to protect their homes or hunt? How about a tax on stupidity?"

Danny Kutrick wrote, "I almost shot my drink through my nose. Criminals don't by ammo from a store."

Jeneene Precious Richardson-Rogers wrote, "How can it hinder crime if a majority of the crimes committed are with illegal handguns? So, how would they collect a tax for bullets when the only people it would hurt is the ones who are legally able to buy guns and not the criminal?"

Rolley, a Democrat, served as the city's planning director from 2003 to 2007.

The primary will be held in September

Read more: http://www.wbaltv.com/politics/28595...#ixzz1Sf9w9JdE
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:18 AM   #2
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Yay... another revenue generator that doesn't solve anything, just pumping more of our money into a government that will mishandle it.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:20 AM   #3
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Just go to another city.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:20 AM   #4
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:24 AM   #5
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If that ain't the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. The first bullet bought under that law has a certain mayoral candidate's name on it.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:30 AM   #6
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Bullshit...
I agree with him... they will stop selling bullets completely which means lost revenue. People will just drive to the next town. I wonder what goes through peoples minds.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:04 PM   #7
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so the rich people can afford to drive to the suburbs and save a few bucks, while the poor have to pay more to defend themselves in the city. you shouldnt have to pay a tax to defend yourself. we do the same thing here in texas with the CHL, we charge a government fee (tax) for the license.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:11 PM   #8
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Baltimore is nearly as fucked as Detroit. I wouldn't expect anything less.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:15 PM   #9
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Baltimore is nearly as fucked as Detroit. I wouldn't expect anything less.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:54 PM   #10
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Is it me or is this super easy to see it is not feasible or sensible on any level?

So, they are going to charge 555 dollar tax on a 15 dollar box for 555 22LR. Just one example.

This is going to stop shootings?

Cause clearly the criminals won't travel or order online. They don't know or won't learn how to reload. Also, clearly the local gun shops (if there are any) and other shops that sell ammo can use the lost sales going to other cities.

Also, I'm sure the criminals don't already have ammo to shoot people with over the next several years.

I'm sure if they implement this the criminals will just resort to knives. Riiiggghht.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:59 PM   #11
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Hurray, a new market for organized crime.
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Old 07-20-2011, 01:18 PM   #12
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Must have listened to Chris Rock:

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So how exactly is this not a violation of the second amendment? He should be tried for treason.
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:15 PM   #14
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Old 07-20-2011, 03:30 PM   #15
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I agree with him... they will stop selling bullets completely which means lost revenue. People will just drive to the next town. I wonder what goes through peoples minds.
No doubt. Big "duh!" moment there. It doesn't take hours to drive out of Baltimore.
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Is it me or is this super easy to see it is not feasible or sensible on any level?

So, they are going to charge 555 dollar tax on a 15 dollar box for 555 22LR. Just one example.

This is going to stop shootings?

Cause clearly the criminals won't travel or order online. They don't know or won't learn how to reload. Also, clearly the local gun shops (if there are any) and other shops that sell ammo can use the lost sales going to other cities.

Also, I'm sure the criminals don't already have ammo to shoot people with over the next several years.

I'm sure if they implement this the criminals will just resort to knives. Riiiggghht.
Criminals will get ammo the same way they get guns, steal or black market. This tax wouldn't do jack.

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Old 07-20-2011, 04:04 PM   #16
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lol...that wont do shit. If someone wants to shoot someone, $1 aint gonna stop them.
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:28 PM   #17
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Is it me or is this super easy to see it is not feasible or sensible on any level?

DEFINITELY.
This a good indicator of how stupid you must REALLY be to vote democratic.
I have a hard time believing the mayor is even this stupid, it's his constituents that are that dumb.

Also another case in point - I've been receiving these emily's list.org emails or something recently . I think because a lady used to havemy hotmail account.
All they do is call upon all WOMEN to support women politicians (democrats) against the devil Republicans who are CLEARLY focused on destroying women's right.
Not only is that the most reaching bullshit agenda ever to fight against, there is nothing like that going on in the House. So they rile all these women up against nothing, about nothing, have a whole group for it, and the bottom line is this is what democrats call 'community organizing'
seriously to be a liberal is to believe in an unknown, non existant cause, FEEL motivated about it, be concerned about it, and gather all of the stupidest friends you have to build a stronger group to accomplish some hypothetical goal.

Which brings me to a second point on liberal mindset, socialist idealogy/pychology of what I would call the 'group o tards' concept :
I read some pages from Ann coulters book Demonic online where mainly it seems to discuss the liberal mindset , basically the mob mentality . I'm not really a supporter of her book or her in general but there was very good references in history to how this has occurred over and over again. And why they believe in these causes. It boils down to just what I'm talking about with the Emily's list ppl. They think they have a cause, there is no enemy . This is who the democratic party is . A party of misfits , who just take others words and react with emotion , not thought or statistics, or any understanding of why 1$ TAX on bullets is utterly RETARDED and COULD NEVER EVER HAPPEN.
Kind of like not understanding that any gun law stops criminals, because they are criminals.

Talk about basic logic. Many of the items the democratic party supports DO NOT pass basic logic.
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