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Old 02-17-2017, 11:02 AM   #1
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Default ATF wants suppressors deregulated

Good news, maybe we have a shot at this passing.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/atf-des...y-used-crimes/
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:20 AM   #2
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As has been evident in the past, common sense has nothing to do with gun laws.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:41 AM   #3
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Seems a bit odd for that agency to say that, doesn't it?

Maybe they're starting to sweat? Getting a little uncomfortable over there, ATF? Getting a little warm? Well it should be, because you're gonna burn
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Maybe they realize that if they don't do it, congress and Trump will do it for them.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:10 PM   #5
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SBR's should be next on the list after supressors!
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There is a free download of the entire transcript from the congressional records of the oral debates they had over the passing of the NFA. Reading it is eye opening.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:58 PM   #7
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There is a free download of the entire transcript from the congressional records of the oral debates they had over the passing of the NFA. Reading it is eye opening.
From the original in the 30's or whenever? I would be interested in reading that just because I dig that kind of stuff.
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From the original in the 30's or whenever? I would be interested in reading that just because I dig that kind of stuff.
They really don't talk about silencers any. But in previous hearing a lot of talk about poaching.
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I'm hoping my procrastination pays off, and they get this done.
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I will go broke buying so many suppressors if they aren't on back order for 5 years.
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Silencerco laid off 200 people a couple weeks ago.
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Silencerco laid off 200 people a couple weeks ago.
That sucks, but who the hell wants to wait almost a year just for something they already paid for. If this deregulation occurs it should be a boom for their industry
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If this deregulation occurs it should be a boom for their industry
It will turn the hand gun business onto its ear. We will see integrated suppressors on every new design to hit the market if suppressors are taken off of the NFA.
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They really don't talk about silencers any. But in previous hearing a lot of talk about poaching.

Didn't think about that, but it seems so obvious. Yes poaching would have to spike.


Also... integrated suppressors? Do they ever go bad? Doesn't all that crap eventually get all clogged up in there? I know little of suppressors.
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Didn't think about that, but it seems so obvious. Yes poaching would have to spike.


Also... integrated suppressors? Do they ever go bad? Doesn't all that crap eventually get all clogged up in there? I know little of suppressors.
Most of that shit gets blown out by the next round. Things like .22 need to be cleaned and maintained.
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Most of that shit gets blown out by the next round. Things like .22 need to be cleaned and maintained.
Are there huge differences in the way that a home made suppressor would be made, VS an "off the shelf" model? I'd imagine they use a much better process and materials.
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Are there huge differences in the way that a home made suppressor would be made, VS an "off the shelf" model? I'd imagine they use a much better process and materials.
The top dollar suppressors on the market use materials that are very hard to machine and many of them are welded using robot TIG welders that weld in a computer calculated pattern to minimize heat distortion. Building something like that at home would take a Da Vinci level of craftsmanship. I am personally a very, very good metal fabricator and I know that I could not make at any price what I can just go to the gun store and purchase for a very reasonable price.
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Are there huge differences in the way that a home made suppressor would be made, VS an "off the shelf" model? I'd imagine they use a much better process and materials.
Well, a suppressor works because it has chambers for the gas to expand in small sections instead of expanding all at once at the end of the barrel. You would have to have a pretty expensive machine shop to make something that worked as well as an "off the shelf" suppressor.
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