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    The Alberta oilsands region and the ore mining regions in Australia use some of the biggest trucks in the world. Above: Komatsu heavy ea...


    Driverless Trucks to Hit Alberta’s Oilsands Region Replacing $200,000/yr Operators; Big Layoffs Coming
    The Alberta oilsands region and the ore mining regions in Australia use some of the biggest trucks in the world.



    Above: Komatsu heavy earthmoving truck at the Tom Price iron ore mine, operated by Rio Tinto Group, near Perth, Australia.

    Drivers of these behemoths cost as much as $200,000 a year. With that incentive, the push to driverless is on.

    Big Layoffs Coming

    The Calgary Herald reports on the and the "threat of big layoffs" as Canada’s Oilsands Pave the Way for Driverless Trucks.
    The 400-tonne heavy haulers that rumble along the roads of northern Alberta’s oilsands sites are referred to in Fort McMurray as “the biggest trucks in the world,” employing thousands of operators to drive the massive rigs through the mine pits.

    Increasingly, however, the giant trucks are capable of getting around without a driver. Indeed, self-driving trucks are already in use at many operations in the province, although they are still operated by drivers while the companies test whether the systems can work in northern Alberta’s variable climate.

    That is about to change.

    Suncor Energy Inc., Canada’s largest oil company, confirmed this week it has entered into a five-year agreement with Komatsu Ltd., the Japanese manufacturer of earthmoving and construction machines, to purchase new heavy haulers for its mining operations north of Fort McMurray. All the new trucks will be “autonomous-ready,” meaning they are capable of operating without a driver, Suncor spokesperson Sneh Seetal said.

    For Suncor’s roughly 1,000 heavy-haul truck operators, however, the prospect of driverless trucks has raised more immediate fears of significant job losses.

    “It’s very concerning to us as to what the future may hold,” said Ken Smith, president of Unifor Local 707A, which represents 3,300 Suncor employees. Smith said Suncor has signed agreements to purchase 175 driverless trucks.

    “It’s not fantasy,” Suncor’s chief financial officer Alister Cowan told investors at an RBC Capital Markets conference in New York last week. He said the company is working to replace its fleet of heavy haulers with automated trucks “by the end of the decade.”

    “That will take 800 people off our site,” Cowan said of the trucks. “At an average (salary) of $200,000 per person, you can see the savings we’re going to get from an operations perspective.”
    Not Just Suncor

    Some companies though will not comment on the prospect.

    Imperial Oil Ltd. spokesperson Pius Rolheiser would not say whether his company was testing the trucks at the company’s Kearl oilsands mine.
    Shell Canada Ltd. said it is "exploring" automated hauling.
    Canada’s largest drillers, Precision Drilling Corp. and Ensign Energy Services Ltd., use high-tech drilling rigs capable of moving autonomously between oil wells throughout North America.

    As soon as one company makes the push the others have to follow or their ongoing operating expenses will be higher.

    These truck driving jobs will be the first to go.

    Then again, please keep in mind Today's G7 Communique that seeks a 70% Reduction in carbon emissions by 2050, and 100% by 2100.

    Apparently we don't need these stinking jobs anyway. They will be replaced by free wind-power from all the windbags in D.C.

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    I was just having this conversation with my co-driver yesterday as we drove through Nevada. Big changes coming soon.

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    • #3
      That'll be interesting overall, especially for a safety point of view. I'd imagine it would have to go slower than a human driver at first - until technology improves - or a track or something would need to be maintained that has sensors.
      Originally posted by MR EDD
      U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ceyko View Post
        That'll be interesting overall, especially for a safety point of view. I'd imagine it would have to go slower than a human driver at first - until technology improves - or a track or something would need to be maintained that has sensors.
        The driverless cars tested by Google and Tesla can already drive better than humans. Humans scored a C on average, and the robots scored an A. They weren't perfect, but they won't make stupid errors or play on their phones while they should be paying attention to the road.
        ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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        • #5
          Hookers are breathing a sigh of relief.

          Alternatively, if companies are will to replace a $200k/yr operator, the fuckers flipping burgers better damn well take note. They are the first group of soylent green.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by YALE View Post
            The driverless cars tested by Google and Tesla can already drive better than humans. Humans scored a C on average, and the robots scored an A. They weren't perfect, but they won't make stupid errors or play on their phones while they should be paying attention to the road.
            *nod* I envision mines/sites like that being a little more hazardous compared to static roads/test courses. I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about though, just BS'ing.

            Time will tell if they make it or not full production.
            Originally posted by MR EDD
            U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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            • #7
              Self driving cars are going to cause some big changes in a lot of industries in the years to come. I work for largest supplier in the US of crash parts for cars, I have to wonder what will happen when self driving cars start to hit public roads in bulk.

              Will shut down a lot of bodyshops, and insurance companies too.
              1997 Miata - Weekend\Autox Car
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              • #8
                Originally posted by ceyko View Post
                *nod* I envision mines/sites like that being a little more hazardous compared to static roads/test courses. I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about though, just BS'ing.

                Time will tell if they make it or not full production.
                I'm ready. I want a self-driving RV when it's possible. It doesn't have to be very big, either. Basically just like an Econoline with a bed. Get off work on a Friday, go to dinner, and go to bed, then wake up in Colorado.
                ZOMBIE REAGAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016!!! heh

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                • #9
                  So much love for me haha. Thanks chumps

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                  • #10
                    When do we think this is going to happen now? Last I paid attention (drove me nuts the constant changes and slowness of the process so I quit paying attention), all the autonomous cars relied on sensors in the roads. Supposedly only California was will to use SOME of their roads to try this, but of course it was expensive...

                    ...any cars that came with various tech (RADAR, laser scanning....etc...etc), were slow and not reliable/mistake prone.

                    Have we made some more strides for everyday cars to be auto driven from point a to b without major retrofitting of the road/highway infrastructure?
                    Originally posted by MR EDD
                    U defend him who use's racial slurs like hes drinking water.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
                      Hookers are breathing a sigh of relief.

                      Alternatively, if companies are will to replace a $200k/yr operator, the fuckers flipping burgers better damn well take note. They are the first group of soylent green.
                      That's too bad I enjoyed fucking your wife and she was cheap too!!!!
                      Last edited by Captain Crawfish; 06-11-2015, 01:43 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by QIK46 View Post
                          That's too bad I enjoyed fucking your wife and she was cheap too!!!!
                          Sick burn!!!!

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                          • #14
                            It's obvious the jr law ya is upset!

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                            • #15
                              It sounds good in theory, but outside of closed courses I don't see this happening anytime soon for OTR or any driving on public roads unless there is a human driver involved as well. Commercial Flights have had a similar technology for years and the running inside joke is that every flight needs just 2 things: A warm body in the pilot seat to ease passenger concerns, and a dog in the co-pilot seat to bite the pilots hand if he tries to touch something.

                              For now, a single mishap with a driver less truck going down the road with a malfunction that leads to fatalities would cause just about every single insurance carrier to refuse to insure, if they haven't already begun to make amendments stating they wont cover it to begin with.

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