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Originally posted by Stunter Bob View Postyet. Keyword boss.
Because one day, you will.
Its not a matter of IF, its WHEN.
Jason knows, Hes an experienced rider also, and hes been down. Hell Ive never been down due to my riding, ive been ran into by another rider! It can happen. And will.
Originally posted by JasonRR View PostWhen you support an opinion with facts, it becomes less an opinion and more of a fact.
I liken it to choosing to own a Glock (no safety/semi auto = potentially more dangerous/less reliable) to owning a typical revolver (more safe/more reliable). Saying a revolver is a safer and more reliable gun is not an opinion. I'm no gun expert and pulled that analogy out of my ass, but I think it works.
BTW...no hard feelings here...I'm just snowed-in like the rest of you and bored, so debating this whole "power wheelie vs clutch wheelie" topic for the 10,000th time is keeping me entertained, somewhat.
Fact..... that way works for you.
opinion....... powering the wheelie up to balance point is better for me.
fact.... clutching them to balance point feels uneasy for me.
So I supported my opinion with a fact. What now? Your facts are based on YOUR opinions. As are mine. I really dont know why you guys get so defensive because people tend to disagree with your opinion. The guy already said he has no real interest to get so heavy into wheelies anyway. Chill out and let the guy decide on his own man. Its really not that serious.
OOOPS. your right. it is a funny debate that will go on and on. ditto on the no hard feelings. Guess I should read everything before posting.Originally posted by mutherjuggzThat whole "making love" shit is for the birds. I won't get all graphic on my preferences, but if you can't knock the bottom out with a vengeance.... leave me alone
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Yeah, I'm just bored.
The fact that supports my argument is that more people wreck doing power wheelies vs clutch wheelie. That's not an opinion.
And the fact that every single professsional rider backs my side of the argument. You will not find a single professional rider that suggests power wheelies over clutch wheelies. So whether or not this guy is trying to be a pro, I'd still point him the direction of those who know and do it most often...same things applies when asking advice on anything, really.
C'mon...just let me win this debate! It'll make my day...sad as that may be.
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There's a failure to communicate here. You're a newb and you don't know exactly what you're saying nor do you understand what they are trying to tell you.
Originally posted by 347Mike View PostSo because I have no interest currently in balancing the bike I am a squid? I guess if I decided to not do wheelies at all and if just rode around what would that make me? Define good wheelie? I think it is personal preference.Originally posted by 347Mike View PostYeah, maybe you missed the first 5 posts where I said I had no desire to do wheelies down the highway, or even "balance" the bike for that matter? I appreciate your advice but like I said, I have no temptation to do any of that. Yet, somehow, I am a squid who wants to ride conservatively with a wheelie here and there?
BP wheelie IS a good wheelie, chasing the wheelie is NOT. It's not personal preference and we all say the same things as newbs, don't worry about it. Don't take it the wrong way, but you don't know what you're saying and you aren't the first to say it. You also won't be the first to change their mind about it either.US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer
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Originally posted by JasonRR View Postdebating this whole "power wheelie vs clutch wheelie" topic for the 10,000th time is keeping me entertained, somewhat.
Originally posted by JasonRR View PostAnd the fact that every single professsional rider backs my side of the argument. You will not find a single professional rider that suggests power wheelies over clutch wheelies.
C'mon...just let me win this debate! It'll make my day...sad as that may be.US Politics in three words - Divide and Conquer
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Originally posted by JasonRR View PostSo I win????
I'm snowed/iced in again today, so can we beat to death another issue??
Hobie... what am I doing wrong that makes me not in the know? I know I feel uncomfortable cluthing them up. I power it right up and dont have to "chase" the wheelie to the BP. But I am no professional.Originally posted by mutherjuggzThat whole "making love" shit is for the birds. I won't get all graphic on my preferences, but if you can't knock the bottom out with a vengeance.... leave me alone
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Do less expensive helmets protect your dome in a crash as well as the more expensive ones (Arai, Shoei, etc...)?
Or are you paying for the lightweight, venting, comfort and style?
All of which are good enough reasons to pay more for the "better" helmet, but if they all meet the government standards, do they all protect your head similarily?
I know there have been comparisons done in bike mags, but I don't know the answer and have always wondered.
How's that for a topic?? Too boring??
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Originally posted by JasonRR View PostDo less expensive helmets protect your dome in a crash as well as the more expensive ones (Arai, Shoei, etc...)?
Or are you paying for the lightweight, venting, comfort and style?
All of which are good enough reasons to pay more for the "better" helmet, but if they all meet the government standards, do they all protect your head similarily?
I know there have been comparisons done in bike mags, but I don't know the answer and have always wondered.
How's that for a topic?? Too boring??
I still have a cheap helmet (seven zero seven) but it is sitll dot/snell approved. If it wasn't meant to protect m y head then it wouldn't be for purchase and thats all I really care about. It's like having a Hondathat can withstand X amount of an impact that may be "standard or minimum" in the safety department but there are other vehicles (Mercedes, etc)that could possibly have a better safety rating.Originally posted by Cmarsh93zDon't Fuck with DFWmustangs...the most powerfull gang I have ever been a member of.
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Originally posted by dsrtuckteezy View Postpower vs clutch.
clutch is definitely safer and more predictable.
power: you have to keep accelerating to bring it up all the way. not safe.
you cant bring the front up efficiently at low speeds without being a flying brick
clutch: tach it up. by the time you drop the clutch youre already up and just maintain throttle control.
edit: it also can greatly depend on what bike you ride. I'm guessing ttops is riding his twin
To me it sounds like he just wants to be able to pop it up for just a little bit while accelerating and then set it down.
Anytime I've used power wheelies was just because it was easy to do from a stop sign or stop light by just literally rolling on the throttle. I could just roll into it in 1st or 2nd and bring the front up without popping it up, and then set it back down, and that's all I prefered to do. I've never tried doing anything at highway speeds.
I have tried to learn clutching it up and got decent at it, but still prefer not to. And, the one problem that I could see with a newb trying to clutch it, is that they could dump the clutch too fast and give too much throttle and loop the bike before they even knew what happened.HD Parts
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