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Old 01-14-2020, 06:57 PM   #21
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I think the 19s got the new traction control and abs tech on the ktm side, and husky got it on the 20s
At the motorcycle show the rep I talked to from Mckinney KTM/Husky said that the current 701 has an improved motor and electronics that haven't made it to the 690 yet...and that although the 690 Enduro R is listed as a 2020 online..that none have yet to become available in the states even though dealers across the nation have put in orders for them.
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Old 01-14-2020, 08:39 PM   #22
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At the motorcycle show the rep I talked to from Mckinney KTM/Husky said that the current 701 has an improved motor and electronics that haven't made it to the 690 yet...and that although the 690 Enduro R is listed as a 2020 online..that none have yet to become available in the states even though dealers across the nation have put in orders for them.
He's wrong on the first part, the LC4 got updated in 2017 on the huskys and the new 690 has the same powerplant. they added a 2nd counter balance to reduce vibrations and raised the RPM's a little. it got a few HP over the 16's as well.

the 19+ 690 has various traction control modes ride modes and ABS, the 701 only has ABS. maybe the smc-r is different, but i don't see why it would be.
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He's wrong on the first part, the LC4 got updated in 2017 on the huskys and the new 690 has the same powerplant. they added a 2nd counter balance to reduce vibrations and raised the RPM's a little. it got a few HP over the 16's as well.

the 19+ 690 has various traction control modes ride modes and ABS, the 701 only has ABS. maybe the smc-r is different, but i don't see why it would be.
Maybe I didn't understand every detail of what he was saying. I'm stuck with my antiquated 2014 690 R. After coming off of an 01 XR650L with all of 35hp and sticks and stones suspension..it feels adequate. Lets not even begin talking about the 09 KLR650 I had before the XR. I have a feeling this old KTM will do for a while.
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:47 PM   #24
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it'll more than suffice, you'll love it. i picked my 701 up and still had a drz400sm in the garage.. i never threw a leg over the drz again until the day i sold it.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:13 PM   #25
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all this LC4 talk is cute...LC8 homies!

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:15 PM   #26
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all this LC4 talk is cute...LC8 homies!

Looks heavy!!!!
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:19 PM   #27
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It's definitely not for any sissy men!
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:37 PM   #28
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460lbs dry tho.. fuck that in the neck
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:45 PM   #29
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460lbs dry tho.. fuck that in the neck
Plus another 40 lbs of shit! lol

Very capable offroad, high speed paved twisties, and touring though.
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Plus another 40 lbs of shit! lol
My LC4 is around 310 or so I've been told. Feels a LOT lighter than what I rode previously. My goal is that always mentioned Unicorn....it doesn't exist. I want a light, easy to handle, fast, powerful bike that can ride to the dirt from the garage, have fun in the dirt, then ride back home...at comfortable freeway speeds and then some...and also deal with daily street rides at 90+...with comfort, and carry a small amount of gear should I decide to make a longer trip on the interstate. Doubt I'll ever find that bike.
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My LC4 is around 310 or so I've been told. Feels a LOT lighter than what I rode previously. My goal is that always mentioned Unicorn....it doesn't exist. I want a light, easy to handle, fast, powerful bike that can ride to the dirt from the garage, have fun in the dirt, then ride back home...at comfortable freeway speeds and then some...and also deal with daily street rides at 90+...with comfort, and carry a small amount of gear should I decide to make a longer trip on the interstate. Doubt I'll ever find that bike.
Well I am a KTM dealer among other brands up here in Idaho, and a lot of people are calling the 790 Adventure r their unicorn. I wouldnt be surprised at a 390 or 690 Adventure or the likes in the near future. I think the best adventure bike would be sub 400 lb fueled with at least 75 horsepower and comfortable enough for a 500-mile day. I'll take a 300 2t when I want to ride single track
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SMC or Enduro and what year? I hear that new 2020 has a lot of cool new features..just do not understand that TINY little instrument cluster if you can call it that.
SMC, 2019. It's definitely pretty spartan on instruments
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Old 01-15-2020, 09:48 AM   #33
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Well I am a KTM dealer among other brands up here in Idaho, and a lot of people are calling the 790 Adventure r their unicorn. I wouldnt be surprised at a 390 or 690 Adventure or the likes in the near future. I think the best adventure bike would be sub 400 lb fueled with at least 75 horsepower and comfortable enough for a 500-mile day. I'll take a 300 2t when I want to ride single track
Prior to my DRZ400s I purchased in 2010 I have always ridden 2 strokes offroad...it is entertaining to come on the pipe and have the sudden rush of power..but after owning quite a few (Cagiva 125, Yamaha YZ125, Yamaha YZ250, 89 92 and 94 souped up Suzuki RMX250's, at least one of each generation water cooled KDX 200's and one KDX 220) I have gotten tired of mixing fuel, fouling plugs (not really an issue on a fuel injected bike I know)..but I wanted something that is street legal. Oh and electric start when you stall on a steep rocky hill. I might ride other peoples 2 smokes for a little entertainment..but I doubt I'll ever own another one.
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Well I am a KTM dealer among other brands up here in Idaho, and a lot of people are calling the 790 Adventure r their unicorn. I wouldnt be surprised at a 390 or 690 Adventure or the likes in the near future. I think the best adventure bike would be sub 400 lb fueled with at least 75 horsepower and comfortable enough for a 500-mile day. I'll take a 300 2t when I want to ride single track
Yeah I've been reading reviews and videos on the 790 Adventure R and at the current time it's looking like it may in fact be that unicorn bike that I've been searching for. I may own one eventually if I can ever find anyone willing to let me ride it to see what I think. I hate to think that I may sell my 99' CBR1100xx as I've never found a more comfortable and reliable long distance missile..but I rarely get it up to speeds over 120 anymore..going stupid fast just isn't really a priority anymore. If the 690 Enduro R doesn't satisfy my street needs I may end up with a 790 Enduro R eventually.
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Does anyone know a good resource to pick up a shop manual for the KTM SMC R 690, I'm having hell finding one. I want a physical, dead trees book, not a PDF file.
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ebay will probably be your best bet if the dealership parts counter couldn't help you out.

did you get it yet?
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Does anyone know a good resource to pick up a shop manual for the KTM SMC R 690, I'm having hell finding one. I want a physical, dead trees book, not a PDF file.
So you're ok with deforesting the planet for your convenience?
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This kind of shit makes me very leery of KTM as I've heard horror stories before about things like this.
But they're supposed to be "the best"! Guess ktmhater doesn't think so

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So you're ok with deforesting the planet for your convenience?
can't remember but isn't paper mostly some kind of grass now?
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But they're supposed to be "the best"! Guess ktmhater doesn't think so

can't remember but isn't paper mostly some kind of grass now?
KTMhater? Hope you're not talking about me. I think they make badass bikes...just sucks when they break because it costs a lot to fix them. As for my friend with the seized 350...Grapevine Powersports fucked him royally and WERE planning to do basically NOTHING until he contacted KTM directly and got them involved. They already sold the bike he traded in so he can't get that back...they agreed finally to buy back the 350 which apparently had some kind of internal bearing defect that seized the crank...but they are only giving him $1300 for the 2012 XR650L that he could have sold for around $3500. Fucking SHADY ASS dealership!!!!
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ebay will probably be your best bet if the dealership parts counter couldn't help you out.

did you get it yet?
Yes indeed sir.

EDIT: The parts counter was very disinterested in helping me with a manual, insisting that I bring it in for every little thing. Fuck that noise.
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