Obamacare aka ACA

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DFWM and reddit are my only social media.

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[x] not shocking

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Lawsuits and uninsured are not what have broken our medical system. Unchecked costs in what amount to monopolies, inefficient and complex insurance business practices, onerous admin processes, and out of control drug costs.

yes and no. The market sets the costs and if you havent noticed, there are TONS of healthcare choices out there. The DFW area has to have 30+ hospitals. Competition sets the prices. Insurance being complex is nonsense.

I'll completely disagree with you on out of control drug costs. There is a ton of money put in to R&D that could never come to market. The government has to approve the drugs. Then people sue due to side effects. Like any other market, there has to be motivation to produce a product. You cut into the money that drug companies make, you take away incentive to produce new drugs. Drug companies would stick to the large illnesses and not try and produce drugs for illnesses that only a small percentage of the sick need.

I think a cash system would fix a lot. If insurance were to go away all together, there would be much lower costs.

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I don't have a twitter.

DFWM and reddit are my only social media.

Nay's request. Don't do it.



Nay's a liberal operative, sent here to infiltrate our group and strategize how to counteract our responses.

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you got me

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you got me

Unseasoned chicken?? Who eat's that shit?

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I'll completely disagree with you on out of control drug costs.

That's a very interesting perspective and one I've only heard from pharma reps. A large portion of the first world manages to pay less in drug costs, often due to direct govt control, than we do while maintaining a higher standard of care. These companies manage to operate at a profit there at a considerably less gouging mark up.

http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2545691

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/09/economist-explains-2

http://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/why-the-u-s-pays-more-than-other-countries-for-drugs-1448939481

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I listened to a piece on the radio this morning about Trump's last few weeks.

It took the Obama Administration some 185 days to develop the ACA from the time they announced it. Trump Administration through their bill out in 17 days.

The fact that it was turned down and subsequently pulled is a huge kick to the nuts.

1st it was the Travel Ban, which was turned down twice.

2nd the Health care Bill was turned down.

Next he is moving onto Tax reform, if his Tax reform Bill does not go through there will be nothing else left for his administration to go on. The last area for them to touch on will be infrastructure, and it is widely known that the Republican party does not support infrastructure, so he is basically walking into something that has no chance in hell of passing.

That will leave him utterly useless in Office as CIC, and the entire government is stymied.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/opinion/sunday/donald-this-i-will-tell-you.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — Dear Donald,

We’ve known each other a long time, so I think I can be blunt.

You know how you said at campaign rallies that you did not like being identified as a politician?

Don’t worry. No one will ever mistake you for a politician.

After this past week, they won’t even mistake you for a top-notch negotiator.

I was born here. The first image in my memory bank is the Capitol, all lit up at night. And my primary observation about Washington is this: Unless you’re careful, you end up turning into what you started out scorning.

And you, Donald, are getting a reputation as a sucker. And worse, a sucker who is a tool of the D.C. establishment.

Your whole campaign was mocking your rivals and the D.C. elite, jawing about how Americans had turned into losers, with our bad deals and open borders and the Obamacare “disaster.”

And you were going to fly in on your gilded plane and fix all that in a snap.

You mused that a good role model would be Ronald Reagan. As you saw it, Reagan was a big, good-looking guy with a famous pompadour; he had also been a Democrat and an entertainer. But Reagan had one key quality that you don’t have: He knew what he didn’t know.

You both resembled Macy’s Thanksgiving Day balloons, floating above the nitty-gritty and focusing on a few big thoughts. But President Reagan was confident enough to accept that he needed experts below, deftly maneuvering the strings.

You’re just careering around on your own, crashing into buildings and losing altitude, growling at the cameras and spewing nasty conspiracy theories, instead of offering a sunny smile, bipartisanship, optimism and professionalism.

You promised to get the best people around you in the White House, the best of the best. In fact, “best” is one of your favorite words.

Instead, you dragged that motley skeleton crew into the White House and let them create a feuding, leaking, belligerent, conspiratorial, sycophantic atmosphere. Instead of a smooth, classy operator like James Baker, you have a Manichaean anarchist in Steve Bannon.

You knew the Republicans were full of hot air. They haven’t had to pass anything in a long time, and they have no aptitude for governing. To paraphrase an old Barney Frank line, asking the Republicans to govern is like asking Frank to judge the Miss America contest — “If your heart’s not in it, you don’t do a very good job.”

You knew that Paul Ryan’s vaunted reputation as a policy wonk was fake news. Republicans have been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare for years and they never even bothered to come up with a valid alternative.

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And neither did you, despite all your promises to replace Obamacare with “something terrific” because you wanted everyone to be covered.

Instead, you sold the D.O.A. bill the Irish undertaker gave you as though it were a luxury condo, ignoring the fact that it was a cruel flimflam, a huge tax cut for the rich disguised as a health care bill. You were so concerned with the “win” that you forgot your “forgotten” Americans, the older, poorer people in rural areas who would be hurt by the bill.

As The Times’s chief Washington correspondent Carl Hulse put it, the G.O.P. falls into clover with a lock on the White House and both houses of Congress, and what’s the first thing it does? Slip on a banana peel. Incompetence Inc.

“They tried to sweeten the deal at the end by offering a more expensive bill with fewer health benefits, but alas, it wasn’t enough!” former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau slyly tweeted.

Despite the best efforts of Bannon to act as though the whole fiasco was a clever way to bury Ryan — a man he disdains as “the embodiment of the ‘globalist-corporatist’ Republican elite,” as Gabriel Sherman put it in New York magazine — it won’t work.

And you can jump on the phone with The Times’s Maggie Haberman and The Washington Post’s Robert Costa — ignoring that you’ve labeled them the “fake media” — and act like you’re in control. You can say that people should have waited for “Phase 2” and “Phase 3” — whatever they would have been — and that Obamacare is going to explode and that the Democrats are going to get the blame. But it doesn’t work that way. You own it now.

You’re all about flashy marketing so you didn’t notice that the bill was junk, so lame that even Republicans skittered away.

You were humiliated right out of the chute by the establishment guys who hooked you into their agenda — a massive transfer of wealth to rich people — and drew you away from your own.

You sold yourself as the businessman who could shake things up and make Washington work again. Instead, you got worked over by the Republican leadership and the business community, who set you up to do their bidding.

That’s why they’re putting up with all your craziness about Russia and wiretapping and unending lies and rattling our allies.

They’re counting on you being a delusional dupe who didn’t even know what was in the bill because you’re sitting around in a bathrobe getting your information from wackadoodles on Fox News and then, as The Post reported, peppering aides with the query, “Is this really a good bill?”

You got played.

It took W. years to smash everything. You’re way ahead of schedule.

And I can say you’re doing badly, because I’m a columnist, and you’re not. Say hello to everybody, O.K.?

Sincerely, Maureen

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**Disclaimer, im just catching up on the news cycles, i took the weekend off to take it all in. **

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-stocks-futures-hit-six-week-low-on-failed-healthcare-bill-2017-3

US stocks slumped in early trading on Monday after President Donald Trump failed to push through his health care bill, raising concerns about the rest of his economic agenda.

A Congress controlled by Trump's Republican party on Friday pulled a bill to overhaul the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, in a stunning setback for the President's first major legislative move since taking office.

Investors took up defensive positions as the so-called "Trumpflation trade" looked to unravel. The dollar, which had found favor on the possibility of tax cuts and higher infrastructure spending, hit its lowest since Nov. 11, while prices of safe haven gold shot up to one-month highs.

At 9:32 a.m. ET, the Dow was down 147 points (0.72%), the S&P 500 was down 18 points (0.79%), and the Nasdaq was down 48 points (0.84%). The Dow was headed for its longest losing streak since 2011.

Financials, which had outperformed in the post-election rally on bets of simpler regulations and higher inflation, were down more than 2% in early trading.

Investors will look forward to comments from Chicago Federal Reserve President Charles Evans and his Dallas counterpart Robert Kaplan for clues on the timing of the next interest rate hike.

Fed Chair Janet Yellen is scheduled to speak at a conference on Tuesday in Washington.

Snap Inc was up 4.7 percent at $23.80 in premarket trading on Monday after multiple brokerages began coverage on the owner of Snapchat after the blackout period for its IPO underwriters ended.

Amazon.com was off 0.96 percent at $837.50 after Dubai's Emaar Malls made an $800 million offer for online retailer Souq.com. Amazon has agreed in principle to buy Souq, according to sources.

Steel stocks, including AK Steel and United States Steel were down about 4 percent.

(Reuters reporting by Yashaswini Swamynathan in Bengaluru; Editing by Anil D'Silva)

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**Disclaimer, im just catching up on the news cycles, i took the weekend off to take it all in. **

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-stocks-futures-hit-six-week-low-on-failed-healthcare-bill-2017-3

US stocks slumped in early trading on Monday after President Donald Trump failed to push through his health care bill, raising concerns about the rest of his economic agenda.

A Congress controlled by Trump's Republican party on Friday pulled a bill to overhaul the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare, in a stunning setback for the President's first major legislative move since taking office.

Investors took up defensive positions as the so-called "Trumpflation trade" looked to unravel. The dollar, which had found favor on the possibility of tax cuts and higher infrastructure spending, hit its lowest since Nov. 11, while prices of safe haven gold shot up to one-month highs.

At 9:32 a.m. ET, the Dow was down 147 points (0.72%), the S&P 500 was down 18 points (0.79%), and the Nasdaq was down 48 points (0.84%). The Dow was headed for its longest losing streak since 2011.

Financials, which had outperformed in the post-election rally on bets of simpler regulations and higher inflation, were down more than 2% in early trading.

Investors will look forward to comments from Chicago Federal Reserve President Charles Evans and his Dallas counterpart Robert Kaplan for clues on the timing of the next interest rate hike.

Fed Chair Janet Yellen is scheduled to speak at a conference on Tuesday in Washington.

Snap Inc was up 4.7 percent at $23.80 in premarket trading on Monday after multiple brokerages began coverage on the owner of Snapchat after the blackout period for its IPO underwriters ended.

Amazon.com was off 0.96 percent at $837.50 after Dubai's Emaar Malls made an $800 million offer for online retailer Souq.com. Amazon has agreed in principle to buy Souq, according to sources.

Steel stocks, including AK Steel and United States Steel were down about 4 percent.

(Reuters reporting by Yashaswini Swamynathan in Bengaluru; Editing by Anil D'Silva)

[The King]

I listened to a piece on the radio this morning about Trump's last few weeks.

It took the Obama Administration some 185 days to develop the ACA from the time they announced it. Trump Administration through their bill out in 17 days.

Regarding the ACA, the esteemed Speaker of the House at the time apparently deemed the American people did not have any need to be informed about the final product of those 185 days prior to making it into law.

To wit: "But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it..."
Thanks Nancy!

Then there's this more recent gem: "ObamaCare is lowering costs and the deficit."
No further comment needed.

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No further comment needed.

LOL... you're responding to individual who hardly reads a title before it's copied/pasted.

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read every word of every article i posted. you?