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Old 11-08-2018, 06:58 AM   #1
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:59 AM   #2
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:07 AM   #3
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:17 AM   #4
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:25 AM   #5
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:36 AM   #7
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We know he was born in 1990, but don't know his identity?
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:47 AM   #8
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:08 AM   #9
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As long as the victims were all liberals, then he did us a favor. Getting a jump start on the civil war.

EDIT: Crap, should have know. Another liberal nut job killing republicans. All the media will point out is that he was a white male.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:15 AM   #10
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As long as the victims were all liberals, then he did us a favor.
Be better than that man.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:38 AM   #11
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Be better than that man.
I appreciate you trying to help me.

On the other hand, we keep talking about a coming civil war. This incident displays the brutality of it. Either we have the stomach for it or not. I hate to see ANYONE or anything die. Hell, I'll save a little cricket from the cat. But, I am so done with these liberals trying to send our country down the path to destruction and antagonizing us in every way they can. This morning, I was reading the article about how they are at Tucker Carlson's house harassing him now and I was wondering what we are going to do to stop this nonsense. They are relentless and won't stop until we've had enough and make them stop.

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As long as the victims were all liberals, then he did us a favor. Getting a jump start on the civil war.
That's pretty fucked up.
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They are relentless and won't stop until we've had enough and make them stop.
I think a lot of us are getting close to that point. I even bought a MAGA hat so I can wear it when I go to Austin.
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That's pretty fucked up.
Yes, it is. I am normally a nice guy, but my heart is hardening pretty quick when I think about the future of our country and what it will take to keep it intact. I am willing to die for my country as long as it's to protect the values it was founded on. I am not willing to die for the industrial war complex, oil or because we want to protect some other little shithole that wants us dead anyway.
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Yes, it is. I am normally a nice guy, but my heart is hardening pretty quick when I think about the future of our country and what it will take to keep it intact. I am willing to die for my country as long as it's to protect the values it was founded on. I am not willing to die for the industrial war complex, oil or because we want to protect some other little shithole that wants us dead anyway.
I wonder how many different watch lists you are on.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:57 AM   #16
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I wonder how many different watch lists you are on.

Every now and then, just for fun (and because I detest authority), I'll google the whole list of words that put you on a watch list. So, I am sure I have been on one at some point. lol I don't care. If they want to look over my shoulder and invade my privacy, have at it. I don't care. As long as I don't do anything illegal, then there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. If I ever decide to do something illegal, it won't be by normal means. I'm going to live my life the way it was intended w/o the fear of my govt. They can all kiss my ass. If they ever tried to frame me for something, then, at that point, all bets would be off.
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Well, I guess every cause needs a martyr. Thanks for throwing your self on the fire for us. I guess.
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Well, I guess every cause needs a martyr. Thanks for throwing your self on the fire for us. I guess.
lol. I don't plan on dying for some religious a cause or want attention. Our country is at a tipping point now and we need to get on board with the side we believe in. Really, I'm mainly concerned about my family and myself. I simply just want to live free without being told what to do or have others force their ways on me. Isn't that why/how our country was started in the first place?
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I simply just want to live free without being told what to do or have others force their ways on me. Isn't that why/how our country was started in the first place?
That has been a personality trait of mass shooters in the past...
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