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  • So... nothing. Wharz all the body cams
    WH

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    • Originally posted by Gasser64 View Post
      So... nothing. Wharz all the body cams
      Waco PD doesn't use them?! I dunno. It all doesn't add up.

      Just like the pentagon vids... They all mysteriously disappear from all surrounding locations.

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      • Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
        Section 2.

        The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

        In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.

        The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.



        There's the list of the powers of the judiciary and what they may hear. I see no interpretation mentioned.

        As to what the cops could have done in those cases? Take responsibility and say "Yeah, we had the obligation but there was nothing we could do. We put out an warrant for him for grabbing the kids and did what we could." Not "Fuck you, we don't have to protect you, we just get to write tickets and ride in vehicles you pay for."
        When did the word "all" come to mean "some"?

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        • Just read a post on FB where a Judge has appointed an Waco PD Detective as head of the Grand Jury that will investigate the shooting...

          A Waco detective will be foreman of the grand jury that could soon be considering indictments of 177 bikers in connection with a deadly shootout.
          Natural law. Sons are put on this earth to trouble their fathers.

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          • Originally posted by BoostedD1 View Post
            Waco PD doesn't use them?! I dunno. It all doesn't add up.

            Just like the pentagon vids... They all mysteriously disappear from all surrounding locations.
            They shouldn't have a choice... you right doesn't add up
            WH

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            • It was Waco PD, McClennan County sheriff deputies and TX DPS. I'm sure someone had a body cam. Not to mention the Cabelas, Best Buy and Office Depot across the parking lot.

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              • The ambush of those biker clubs and the ensuing cover up by the Waco law enforcement & legal system seems to get fishier by the day...

                How many bikers were killed by other bikers and how many were killed by the cops sent there to stop the killing?

                Let's see the stats.

                mardyn

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                • WACO – A Waco police detective has been chosen as the foreman of the 12 people most likely to decide if the bikers in the Waco Twin Peaks shootout get indicted.

                  The grand jury, composed of 12 grand jurors and two alternates, were sworn in Wednesday by McLennan County District Judge Ralph Strother. At that time, the detective was also appointed as the grand jury foreman.

                  According to*The Waco Tribune-Herald, Detective James Head was wearing his police badge and pistol when he was sworn in. The 26-year veteran is a theft detective assigned to the department's neighborhood services division.

                  The selection of Head to be on the grand jury - much less to serve as its foreman - has outraged the attorneys of the bikers.

                  WFAA

                  Attorney Bob Gill represents two of the bikers in the Twin Peaks shootout.

                  "This has created a whole lot of problems for both sides of the bar in McLennan County, and for anyone one going in front of a grand jury and expecting to get a fair shake out of the grand jury," said Bob Gill, a Fort Worth attorney representing two of the bikers. "This detective is going to know and be familiar with a lot of the people involved in the cases and the facts of a lot those cases. There's an inherent conflict with anything that comes in front of that grand jury, at this point."

                  The stakes are high: 177 bikers are facing first-degree felony charges of engaging in organized crime. If indicted and convicted, they could get life in prison in the May 17 shootout between the Bandidos and Cossacks motorcycle gangs that left nine dead and 18 injured.

                  In a phone interview with News 8, Judge Strother said he sees no problem with the situation. He said Head was selected from 100 people who were summoned.

                  WFAA

                  McLellan County District Judge Ralph Strother

                  "We took the first 12 people who were qualified," Strother said. "They weren't hand-picked. It was a completely random process. And a Waco police officer was among those, and so he was seated, just like any other citizen. [...] Suppose if there'd been someone who was a member of a biker club, what do you think kind of criticism we would have received if I said, 'No, no you can't be on the grand jury, sorry.'"

                  Strother then selected Head to serve as foreman of the grand jury, which will meet twice a month for the next three months.

                  "He has no more power or authority as presiding grand juror than anybody else does," Strother said, adding that he does not know the detective.

                  Gill, a retired state district judge, would beg to differ. He said Head will have influence on his fellow grand jurors, even if he recuses himself.

                  "It's like being the leader of a regular jury or being the boss at work — people look to him for his opinion," Gill said. "People who have no knowledge of the criminal justice system are going to look to him for guidance."

                  Lawyers for the bikers have a problem with it, even if Head recuses himself. They say he will still have influence on the other grand jurors just by his mere presence.

                  "He will be the actual and de facto leader in that grand jury," Gill said.

                  In the interview, Strother implied the new random process was to blame for Head's selection.

                  A new law goes into effect Sept. 1 mandating random selection of grand jurors. Under the old law, counties could do a random selection or they could use what's known as the "key-man" method, in which judges picked commissioners, who, in turn, picked members of the community as potential grand jurors.

                  The first 12 qualified people would then be selected to serve on the grand jury – a procedure that critics termed the "pick-a-pal" process.

                  Even though the new law hasn't gone into effect, Strother said he, the judges, and the district clerk decided to go ahead and implement the procedure.

                  "In our county, for time memoriam, we have always used the grand jury commission system, which has served us well," he said. "I didn't pick the people to show up for jury service. It was a totally random process, and that's what we get."

                  McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna told the*Tribune-Herald, "That's the system. He was chosen totally at random, like the law says."

                  WFAA

                  An officer leads a biker away from the Twin Peaks shooting scene in handcuffs.

                  The*Tribune-Herald*asked Head if he played a role in the Twin Peaks investigation. His response: "Not really."

                  Head declined to elaborate.

                  The detective told the*Tribune-Herald*that his selection was kind of "unusual."

                  "The judge is going to be fair," he told the newspaper. "They are not going to let anything underhanded get by up there."

                  Sgt. Patrick Swanton, a department spokesman, said the department has no involvement in the grand jury selection process and therefore, has no comment on it. He declined to comment on what role if any Head played in the Twin Peaks case.

                  Strother said if Head did have some part in the Twin Peaks case or any other case, he said he would expect him to recuse himself. Gill said he'd be very surprised if Head didn't play some role in the Twin Peaks case.

                  "It was all-hands-on-deck when this was going on, in the days and weeks following," Gill said. "Besides, he knows everybody involved in it. I'm sure it's been the top of discussion at the Waco PD for the last couple of months, and even before that, when the local PD and the DPS were sending back-and-forth bulletins about the meetings at Twin Peaks."

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                  Lawyers representing some of the bikers have fiercely accused the Waco Police Department and the district attorney of taking a dragnet-size approach to the case, charging people without probable cause and illegally seizing their property.

                  One of those attorneys has filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of his client, alleging that he was illegally swept up in a police dragnet.

                  That attorney, Clint Broden, is now under a gag order. He filed an emergency petition with a state appeals court Thursday seeking to have the gag order lifted, so that he can speak out on behalf of his client.

                  "There is a noxious odor surrounding the investigation by the Waco Police Department and the McLennan County District Attorney's office," Broden wrote in his motion. "This odor continues to waft and intensify with Detective Head serving as the grand jury foreperson over the investigation. [...] Indeed, it would be as if a relative of the defendant was the foreperson of the grand jury."

                  Initially, $1 million bonds were set on all of the bikers. Many of those bonds have since been released after months of negotiations and bond reduction hearings.

                  To date, 173 of the 177 bikers have been released from custody.



                  Coverup?! You tell me. Wtf.

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                  • Originally posted by mardyn View Post
                    The ambush of those biker clubs and the ensuing cover up by the Waco law enforcement & legal system seems to get fishier by the day...

                    How many bikers were killed by other bikers and how many were killed by the cops sent there to stop the killing?

                    Let's see the stats.

                    mardyn



                    It's all over.. so much for justice, but then again, with Holder and Obama as reference material it makes perfect sense....a Judge has appointed an Waco PD Detective as head of the Grand Jury that will investigate the shooting...

                    Natural law. Sons are put on this earth to trouble their fathers.

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                    • Originally posted by 68RR View Post
                      It's all over.. so much for justice, but then again, with Holder and Obama as reference material it makes perfect sense....a Judge has appointed an Waco PD Detective as head of the Grand Jury that will investigate the shooting...

                      http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/us/tex...ury/index.html


                      Assbanana strikes agayn.

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                      • Originally posted by 68RR View Post
                        It's all over.. so much for justice, but then again, with Holder and Obama as reference material it makes perfect sense....a Judge has appointed an Waco PD Detective as head of the Grand Jury that will investigate the shooting...

                        http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/10/us/tex...ury/index.html
                        If I were on that grand jury I would try to nullify the hell out if it, convincing every one i could to do the same.
                        Sticking a detective of the same pd that is trying to make the case stick as the head of the Grand jury responsible for deciding if it sticks??? F that.

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                        • Originally posted by sc281 View Post
                          If I were on that grand jury I would try to nullify the hell out if it, convincing every one i could to do the same.
                          Sticking a detective of the same pd that is trying to make the case stick as the head of the Grand jury responsible for deciding if it sticks??? F that.
                          Yep. It's the same train of though that says "we've investigated ourselves and found we've done nothing wrong,"

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                          • So the Harker Heights Twin Peaks closed Monday unexpectedly.



                            The Killeen location is still open for now.

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                            • Are these new body cam 'rules' gonna apply to HIpo's, and sheriff's office too?
                              WH

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                              • Okay for a correction the Harker Heights location was the one I thought was Killeen. I don't venture past Fort Hood so I just assumed there was another one.

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