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Old 12-06-2017, 07:25 PM   #1
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Default WOW or Primera Airlines

Anyone have any personal experience flying with WOW or Primera airlines? Thinking of booking a trip to Paris for my wife's Christmas present. I have read really mixed reviews for both but they are the best price. I have no issues flying no-frills as long as the plane is not a piece of crap. Thanks for the help.
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:17 PM   #2
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I don't have any experience with either, but with that long of a flight I'd spend a bit more to be more comfortable.
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Old 12-06-2017, 10:03 PM   #3
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Delta/Air France. Good luck with a decent price right now though.

I fly through Paris (CDG) to get to Africa. My flight this time of the year was ridiculously expensive. Seems it was cheaper for me to go through Minneapolis vs Atlanta this time. To Paris it is a 9hr flight roughly from either MSP or ATL. Not that bad if you get a window in Economy Comfort.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:13 PM   #4
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Spoiler alert: The plane will be a piece of crap. It might even be a smelly piece of crap.
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:55 PM   #5
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Don't wanna threadjack, this question may help the OP too.

Which airline is the best of the best? I've heard a few people say they will only fly southwest. Better planes, more luxury, better service. True?
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:58 PM   #6
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Which airline is the best of the best? I've heard a few people say they will only fly southwest. Better planes, more luxury, better service. True?
Southwest is the best of the economy operators. Private jets are as good as it gets. The two are not synonymous. Also, I will pay for any flight you can book to Paris on Southwest.
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:04 AM   #7
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I only fly BA, Lufthansa, emirates and qatar. I haven't even heard of this two.....
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Old 12-07-2017, 12:43 AM   #8
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Private jets are as good as it gets.
Smaller so... rougher ride?
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Old 12-07-2017, 01:30 AM   #9
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Smaller so... rougher ride?
Nope and the commercial airlines fly slower to save money so a private one will usually be going 50-100 mph faster.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:50 AM   #10
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A pity its $1200+ for a ride on the little jets.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:33 AM   #11
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Just borrow one of SVOs jets.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:49 AM   #12
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Spoiler alert: The plane will be a piece of crap. It might even be a smelly piece of crap.
Sounds like a good description for "Champion Air", a charter airline we took once to Vegas years ago. It's the only time I ever had the pleasure of experiencing an aborted takeoff from DFW while proceeding down the runway at full throttle.
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Old 12-07-2017, 09:57 AM   #13
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Which airline is the best of the best? I've heard a few people say they will only fly southwest. Better planes, more luxury, better service. True?
Serious question, have you ever flown before?

I LUV Southwest but to suggest they have better planes or more luxury is hilarious. SWA only flies the 737 and also doesn’t offer first class or assigned seating. Again not knocking a company I really like
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:20 AM   #14
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Anyone besides SVO ever fly Legend Airlines based out of Love Field? All seats were business class. Novel idea, but they didn't last long.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:26 AM   #15
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I flew on a similar short-lived airline named National Airlines to Las Vegas a few times, owned by Harrah's Casino. Very nice...
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:40 AM   #16
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Nope and the commercial airlines fly slower to save money so a private one will usually be going 50-100 mph faster.
Speed has nothing to do with a rough ride. The reason Biz jets are smoother is because they generally fly higher. 99% of the time it gets smoother in the lower tropopause. Its height also varies with the seasons; highest in the summer and lowest in the winter.
In a swept wing jet at high altitude we have buffet boundary charts. The rougher the ride(chop) the wing will be closer to stall because of degrade of lift.(boundary layer separation) Your low/high speed convergence(coffin corner) is dependant on several factors, temp(ISA), weight, turbulence, for each specific aircraft.

At high altitude you will notice we request lower just about all the time when it gets rough, this is done because we do not want to increase our stall speed at altitude. Passenger comfort is also a consideration.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:54 AM   #17
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Lufthansa is the best economy I have flown. Someone already mentioned Emirates or Qatar, I've heard they are the best of the best.

We didn't get our upgrade to Germany and were placed in economy on our way over. It wasn't bad at all. Seat pitch was good, lots of leg room, they fed us three times and the kids meal for my son was corn dogs for dinner and strawberry pancakes for breakfast.

So far thought, Polaris BizFirst has been the way to travel for my family. Too bad UA just raised saverrate reward levels again to 60K for Europe.
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Old 12-07-2017, 11:07 AM   #18
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I have gone to Germany on Lufthansa several times. As much as I love my airline,AA. The service received on the above mentioned airlines are light years better than we offer. Granted we are striving for better, more luxurious accommodations, cost is a factor in our capitalistic market. A lot of European carriers are funded by the sponsoring governments. We (USA) however, do not participate in this practice.

Emirates and Qatar are at the top of the list for the best to travel on. After 9-11, we furloughed several thousand pilots in our downsizing. Many went to Emirates and absolutely love it there. Most passed recall when asked to come back.
Starting $$ for a new-hire at Emirates is in excess of 100k plus end of year bonuses. Top senior Captains make excess of 1/2mil plus bonuses.

If I had to do it again, Cathay Pacific would be my airline of choice to work for.

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Old 12-07-2017, 11:28 AM   #19
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I fly international a lot for work. Emirates and Qatar are the best but going to Dubai straight from DFW to get anywhere else stinks. Lufthansa hubs in Frankfurt and has short flights all over Europe from there on a continual basis. When I take the wife to Europe for our 10th annual we will take LH. I'm trying to squeeze a few laps around the 'ring into the plan but they may end up as a solo trip one year.
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Old 12-07-2017, 05:03 PM   #20
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I only fly BA, Lufthansa, emirates and qatar. I haven't even heard of this two.....
British Airways fly junk. If American Airlines would only approach their business like at customer service company...
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