Is Smokey Yunick running VW these days?

[slow99]

Hope nobody bought yesterday, damn.

[SS Junk]

They'll get a fine and continue kicking ass.

Client of yours?

[BLAKE]

Client of yours?

Hah, no. But that'd be nice. I've never owned anything VW before in my life.

It's the world's biggest automaker. It's shady as hell, but I don't see a way they don't bounce back from this. Too much momentum.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Edit: I could have swore the diesel version was only offered on higher trim models so the cost was a bit much. If you want to "cool" factor get a diesel. But I wouldn't trust a vw anyways. The few people I know that have owned one hated them.

That's nearly a 3k difference for about 7mpg more in the hwy. figure in the difference in fuel cost which is about 50 cents more per diesel where I live and you're never going to come ahead. I think players are too late to the diesel game. It made sense at one time but it doesn't anymore. It can also be more difficult to find fuel.

Ive never had an issue finding diesel.

[Cooter]

Not sure why people even buy the diesel. The upfront cost is huge and the fuel cost is more. Do the math and you're more than likely to never come ahead.

take a look at depreciation

[Sgt Beavis]

Hope nobody bought yesterday, damn.

No kidding. The 52wk high was 254 euros. It was around 180 when they closed out last week. Now it's sitting at 110 with the low being at 105. Screw the CEO, stockholders should be demanding the heads of the entire Piech and Porsche families as well as anyone else on the board.

[quikag]

No kidding. The 52wk high was 254 euros. It was around 180 when they closed out last week. Now it's sitting at 110 with the low being at 105. Screw the CEO, stockholders should be demanding the heads of the entire Piech and Porsche families as well as anyone else on the board.

Sounds like a good buying opportunity now.....

[slow99]

Sounds like a good buying opportunity now.....

At least the potential fine amount is taken out now; as for the increased risk premium ... you guys can go right ahead!

[Baron Von Crowder]

I think the best part of this is that the computer went into "test mode" when there was zero speed on the non drive wheels via the abs.

That's brilliant.

[KBScobravert]

I think the best part of this is that the computer went into "test mode" when there was zero speed on the non drive wheels via the abs.

That's brilliant.

I am going to use this tactic to get my Cobra to pass emissions. Work a tune, load it into one of the 4 slots in the ecu go pass a sniffer.

[BP]

Read up on the last GM bankruptcy before throwing your money at a German company. VW is already partially state owned, the German government is going to get their money back before stock holders will.

[Strychnine]

I think the best part of this is that the computer went into "test mode" when there was zero speed on the non drive wheels via the abs.

That's brilliant.

I've done tricks like that on rigs to workaround aftertreatment system faults, but in the opposite direction (ie. to be compliant, not to cheat the system).

If an engine senses any wheel speed you can't do a stationary forced regen on a DPF. Long story about why, but workover rigs with Allison 5000/6000 series transmissions can't lock their dropbox output shafts so there is always a 1mph speed logged in the ECM when stationary on-site and up on jacks. We've tied the vehicle speed sensor into switched circuits with dummy resistors, we've tied it into ABS sensors in the front wheels and reprogramed the VSS logic, etc.

But damn, to consciously do that work to skirt the law and risk getting boned in the ass, and to do it on ALL units not just a couple... that's retarded as hell. There were a lot of people complicit in this at VW - definitely not a one man thing in a group that large. Me thinks VW engineering will be in for some ethics training in the near future.

[cool cat]

I think the best part of this is that the computer went into "test mode" when there was zero speed on the non drive wheels via the abs.

That's brilliant.

Someone in the aftermarket needs to hire these VW engineers.

[Baron Von Crowder]

I am going to use this tactic to get my Cobra to pass emissions. Work a tune, load it into one of the 4 slots in the ecu go pass a sniffer.

Just think, any class racer with an ECM tied to a VSS or ABS could do the same, dyno's a few hp shy when the non-drive wheels arent moving, bump it up way over spec for the track.

I've done tricks like that on rigs to workaround aftertreatment system faults, but in the opposite direction (ie. to be compliant, not to cheat the system).

If an engine senses any wheel speed you can't do a stationary forced regen on a DPF. Long story about why, but workover rigs with Allison 5000/6000 series transmissions can't lock their dropbox output shafts so there is always a 1mph speed logged in the ECM when stationary on-site and up on jacks. We've tied the vehicle speed sensor into switched circuits with dummy resistors, we've tied it into ABS sensors in the front wheels and reprogramed the VSS logic, etc.

But damn, to consciously do that work to skirt the law and risk getting boned in the ass, and to do it on ALL units not just a couple... that's retarded as hell. There were a lot of people complicit in this at VW - definitely not a one man thing in a group that large. Me thinks VW engineering will be in for some ethics training in the near future.

It has to be the entire department, multiple cars lines, etc. Not one small group, that's the way it's been done with the whole group. Perhaps even Audi and Porsche as well.

Someone in the aftermarket needs to hire these VW engineers.

Yup.

[Sgt Beavis]

Sounds like a good buying opportunity now.....

Perhaps, but the CEO unexpectedly DIDN'T resign today. We shall see how the market reacts.