Ufc 135

[Steve]

Im just talking about coming to you school & seeing if you can back it up in a sparring session. Whats imature about that? Its standard practice at most MMA gyms to spare! So lets set something up I want you to show me and teach me some of these moves your talking about

I have no problem with that at all, but I know better with your temper. You're not going to show up with an open mind, but rather a hot temper with something to prove. But it's whatever.

[SEB]

Why is it you can't seem to have a conversation about this topic without your ego and stupidity overriding your brain? Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it any less true. You're just going to have to learn to deal with it and quit acting like your 18 still. Grow up.

Im just talking about coming to you school & seeing if you can back it up in a sparring session. Whats imature about that? Its standard practice at most MMA gyms to spare! So lets set something up I want you to show me and teach me some of these moves your talking about

[Steve]

Na I doubt it! You talk a big game about your standup. But from out fight it was just that TALK!

Anytime you want to prove it & back up your mouth Im game. Im along with plenty of other members am getting tired of your mouth & your know it all attitude on here & regardless if you can whoop me standing up. Im ready to find out.

Why is it you can't seem to have a conversation about this topic without your ego and stupidity overriding your brain? Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it any less true. You're just going to have to learn to deal with it and quit acting like your 18 still. Grow up.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Na I doubt it! You talk a big game about your standup. But from out fight it was just that TALK!

Anytime you want to prove it & back up your mouth Im game. Im along with plenty of other members am getting tired of your mouth & your know it all attitude on here & regardless if you can whoop me standing up. Im ready to find out.

Let me lace up my lollerskates.

[SEB]

The problem with that is that you can't see what you are swinging at, you're just throwing wild. The other problem is with that is that I can hit you three or four times in the time you throw one SEB, you're ALOT slower than I am. No offense, just the truth.

Na I doubt it! You talk a big game about your standup. But from out fight it was just that TALK!

Anytime you want to prove it & back up your mouth Im game. Im along with plenty of other members am getting tired of your mouth & your know it all attitude on here & regardless if you can whoop me standing up. Im ready to find out.

[Steve]

I love the method of turning my head on the punch. It works good for me! I also dont mind taking a punch to give a punch though! Also not everyone is uneducated as you think. I will gladly come to your school & spare with you. I can show you alot better then I can tell you

The problem with that is that you can't see what you are swinging at, you're just throwing wild. The other problem is with that is that I can hit you three or four times in the time you throw one SEB, you're ALOT slower than I am. No offense, just the truth.

[SEB]

If you'd ever get off your ass to come over here and work your stand up to learn some proper timing drills, you'd get my point. There is much better ways to do it than bulldozing. There is so much being left on the table by fighters these days it's pathetic. No feints, no parrying, just the same mirrored movements by a majority of fighters these days. You know damn well if you tried that bulldozing on me you'd get lit up like a Christmas tree.




And how has that worked for you?

It's not the only game plan that will work, it's just only one you are aware of because you're uneducated/untrained.

Jones is on the large side of his division, so catching him will take another man of similar size and stats, or a lucky punch.

Have him move up 25lbs to HW and then he will be a small man for the divison and you would see him getting rocked by guys like Werdum, Barnett, Mir etc.

I love the method of turning my head on the punch. It works good for me! I also dont mind taking a punch to give a punch though! Also not everyone is uneducated as you think. I will gladly come to your school & spare with you. I can show you alot better then I can tell you

[Steve]

Get the fuck out of here with "bulldozing" your way in. Every short fighter knows that you're pretty much going to take a punch on your way in, but if it lets you be on your game, then it's the right move. It's much smarter than staying on the outside and letting the fighter with more reach tag you at will.

If you'd ever get off your ass to come over here and work your stand up to learn some proper timing drills, you'd get my point. There is much better ways to do it than bulldozing. There is so much being left on the table by fighters these days it's pathetic. No feints, no parrying, just the same mirrored movements by a majority of fighters these days. You know damn well if you tried that bulldozing on me you'd get lit up like a Christmas tree.

I like the Bulldoze method. Alot of short fighters have to use that method. Turn your head & come in with the over hand right. That method combined with going in on a counter is going to be the only game plan to catch Jones & land that haymaker!

But I do think with a man of Jones size that leg kicks are going to be a big part of the game plan to break Jones down

And how has that worked for you?

It's not the only game plan that will work, it's just only one you are aware of because you're uneducated/untrained.

Jones is on the large side of his division, so catching him will take another man of similar size and stats, or a lucky punch.

Have him move up 25lbs to HW and then he will be a small man for the divison and you would see him getting rocked by guys like Werdum, Barnett, Mir etc.

[Pro88LX]

Jones looks like that tall lanky fighter on the game street fighter, that Indian dude lol

Dhalsim LMAO

Now Jones just needs to perfect the yoga flame move!

[SEB]

Rogan was running his mouth at that moment and said that without thinking. Jones's legs aren't THAT skinny that he can't take come leg kicks. Second of all, Rampage can't kick worth a fuck and those kicks weren't doing shit.

If Jones's leg were like Corey Hill's then fine I could buy into that arguement. But leg kicks are all about technique and placement. Leg kicks are my thing, trust me on this. lol.




Yes and no. It does take time to recover, but the opponent is usually pretty far away due to the increased reach. It all evens out. Timing and speed is the key on getting in with someone with a longer reach on you. Bulldozing your way in like Adam suggested (the Mike Tyson method is rarely the smart way to go about it. It's easier to do in boxing when you are being hit with some pillows and have a pair of your own to protect yourself with.

I like the Bulldoze method. Alot of short fighters have to use that method. Turn your head & come in with the over hand right. That method combined with going in on a counter is going to be the only game plan to catch Jones & land that haymaker!

But I do think with a man of Jones size that leg kicks are going to be a big part of the game plan to break Jones down

[ThreeFingerPete]

Rogan was running his mouth at that moment and said that without thinking. Jones's legs aren't THAT skinny that he can't take come leg kicks. Second of all, Rampage can't kick worth a fuck and those kicks weren't doing shit.

If Jones's leg were like Corey Hill's then fine I could buy into that arguement. But leg kicks are all about technique and placement. Leg kicks are my thing, trust me on this. lol.




Yes and no. It does take time to recover, but the opponent is usually pretty far away due to the increased reach. It all evens out. Timing and speed is the key on getting in with someone with a longer reach on you. Bulldozing your way in like Adam suggested (the Mike Tyson method) is rarely the smart way to go about it. It's easier to do in boxing when you are being hit with some pillows and have a pair of your own to protect yourself with.

Get the fuck out of here with "bulldozing" your way in. Every short fighter knows that you're pretty much going to take a punch on your way in, but if it lets you be on your game, then it's the right move. It's much smarter than staying on the outside and letting the fighter with more reach tag you at will.

[Steve]

The scary part is, Jones is still learning. I've never seen Rampage look small in the cage until last night.

Jones looks like that tall lanky fighter on the game street fighter, that Indian dude lol

We will see Jones fall at some point, it happens to every fighter, it's envitable. I personally don't think we will see it until Jones ventures in the HW division.

[Steve]

How do you figure? Joe Roagen pointed out that Jones legs are skinny as hell & going in the start of the second round Rampage should continue with the leg kicks on Jones lead leg. In short using the same method used on Rampage himself in the Forest Griffin fight between the two. Start choppin them legs & he will fall.

Rampage should have listened to his corner & kept working the legs & yes Jones legs are his chink in his game I believe as well as Joe Roagen mentioned during the fight.

Rogan was running his mouth at that moment and said that without thinking. Jones's legs aren't THAT skinny that he can't take come leg kicks. Second of all, Rampage can't kick worth a fuck and those kicks weren't doing shit.

If Jones's leg were like Corey Hill's then fine I could buy into that arguement. But leg kicks are all about technique and placement. Leg kicks are my thing, trust me on this. lol.

His reach for sure is a advantage. But with the right striker it could also work against him. Thats alot of arm to swing & once to you commit to that strike it leaves you open for the counter

Yes and no. It does take time to recover, but the opponent is usually pretty far away due to the increased reach. It all evens out. Timing and speed is the key on getting in with someone with a longer reach on you. Bulldozing your way in like Adam suggested (the Mike Tyson method) is rarely the smart way to go about it. It's easier to do in boxing when you are being hit with some pillows and have a pair of your own to protect yourself with.

[BERT]

The scary part is, Jones is still learning. I've never seen Rampage look small in the cage until last night.

Jones looks like that tall lanky fighter on the game street fighter, that Indian dude lol

[SEB]

The reach advantage was really throwing Page's timing off making him apprehensive. Dealing with big mooks like you takes timing and speed, obviously I don't have that issue with you, but Page apparently needs to work on his. lol.

His reach for sure is a advantage. But with the right striker it could also work against him. Thats alot of arm to swing & once to you commit to that strike it leaves you open for the counter