Just wondering, 9/11..

[matts5.0]

You have to determine that. I'm saying that either way there is agenda pushing it.

Yeah, true for both sides.
On another note what are some good web sites for somewhat unbiased happens around the world and here at home. Where do y'all political savvy peeps go online for a good read?(not counting here)

[Sean88gt]

Very true. What's the agenda driving it, just curious.
I might be dumb in regards to most political things, but I'm not unintelligent. There seems to be rather smart people on both sides of the debate. Even though it's flimsy at best sometimes for the conspirators.

You have to determine that. I'm saying that either way there is agenda pushing it.

[matts5.0]

The word is naive.
Trust but verify -Reagan. Never take a documentary literally when there is agenda driving it.

Very true. What's the agenda driving it, just curious.
I might be dumb in regards to most political things, but I'm not unintelligent. There seems to be rather smart people on both sides of the debate. Even though it's flimsy at best sometimes for the conspirators.

[Sean88gt]

The word is naive.
Trust but verify -Reagan. Never take a documentary literally when there is agenda driving it.

[matts5.0]

I was in 10th grade, social studies. I guess I'm nieeve(sp?) but some of the things in the 3 or so documentaries about it especially tower 7 and a few other small things just seemed weird to me. Trust me I want to believe that it was Osama, but I dont know. I guess none of us ever will know without a doubt though. I do agree that someone would have came out and said something somehow if it was an inside job or whatever. Then again failing to act on itellagence almost isn't any better, if that's really the case. Hell 9/11 is one of the main reasons I joined the Marine corps in early 05.

[helosailor]

99% of the time I don't trust the government, or the people representing the government, or those representing us, or pretty much anyone working for the government (except the military), and even I believe the official story of 9/11. As much fucked up shit as our government has pulled in the last 100 years alone, and they have pulled A LOT of fucked up shit, I still don't believe they are that twisted and far gone to have tried something like 9/11.

I do, however, believe they were notified of intelligence relating to 9/11 planning and failed to act. But failing to act on info and fucking planning it themselves are two completely separate issues.

That's basically what i was getting at.

I'll never forget the gut punch of sitting off the coast of Jacksonville, FL when the attacks started. We were the only armed Naval asset at sea in the western Atlantic at the time. We were immediately ordered to proceed up the coast at "best speed", which for an Arleigh Burke class destroyer is very fast ( ). Not knowing what exactly was going on, we set up an air defense perimeter in the Delaware Bay vicinity that evening. Pretty weird feeling being at battle stations in your own territorial waters.

[BradM]

Not quite that he did it, or even knew at all. Just that there are a lot of things that don't make sense. It's not nearly as complicated as most conspiracy theorists make it out. I just don't think it's as simple as some dumbass rag heads flew planes into buildings. There is a middle ground, where people in our government might have known more then they let on.

They weren't just "dumbass ragheads" they were intelligent with a plan. Don't discount the drive of hatred.

[Forever_frost]

99% of the time I don't trust the government, or the people representing the government, or those representing us, or pretty much anyone working for the government (except the military), and even I believe the official story of 9/11. As much fucked up shit as our government has pulled in the last 100 years alone, and they have pulled A LOT of fucked up shit, I still don't believe they are that twisted and far gone to have tried something like 9/11.

I do, however, believe they were notified of intelligence relating to 9/11 planning and failed to act. But failing to act on info and fucking planning it themselves are two completely separate issues.

This, I will agree on

[Broncojohnny]

You'd have to be really fucking stupid to believe some of the shit that is out there, let me just say that.

[LANTIRN]

99% of the time I don't trust the government, or the people representing the government, or those representing us, or pretty much anyone working for the government (except the military), and even I believe the official story of 9/11. As much fucked up shit as our government has pulled in the last 100 years alone, and they have pulled A LOT of fucked up shit, I still don't believe they are that twisted and far gone to have tried something like 9/11.

I do, however, believe they were notified of intelligence relating to 9/11 planning and failed to act. But failing to act on info and fucking planning it themselves are two completely separate issues.

[Forever_frost]

Exactly. I still remember the gut reaction of seeing that event in Basic training and the fire it lit in all of us soldiers. To sully it by lies such as that......

[D]

So what you're saying is that George W. Bush is the most brilliant criminal mastermind in our history, planned the attack, somehow 'disappeared' 3 plane loads of people and had people fly into the WTC at the behest of our government? While he froze when he heard it and took several seconds to figure out what was going on, that was a put on?

I'm pretty sure those families that lost loved ones are really in on it as well right? Idiot.

Lets not forget that he did all of this while reading to a classroom full of grade school kids in FL while it all went down.


I'd like to flip a big ol bird and say a big ol "fuck you" to anyone that things it's an inside job. The kind of ignorance it takes to really believe that kind of crap is beyond comprehension.

[Forever_frost]

That is exectly what happened, duh! Anything short of a gnat farting in the wind is George Dubayahs fault!

Not true. Because George let that gnat fart, Katrina grew into a hurricane and hit New Orleans because he hates black people

[347Mike]

So what you're saying is that George W. Bush is the most brilliant criminal mastermind in our history, planned the attack, somehow 'disappeared' 3 plane loads of people and had people fly into the WTC at the behest of our government? While he froze when he heard it and took several seconds to figure out what was going on, that was a put on?

I'm pretty sure those families that lost loved ones are really in on it as well right? Idiot.

That is exectly what happened, duh! Anything short of a gnat farting in the wind is George Dubayahs fault!

[Forever_frost]

Right: Let's handle some of these:
"First time fire ever melted steel" That's pretty much how steel is created. It's heated
"Pentagon was hit by a missile." Right. Fired from where?
"The airplanes were not hijacked and were unmanned" This one is just beyond stupid.

What do you think is a conspiracy?