Fight over teaching evolution in Texas fizzles

[stephen4785]

Only one of those is a theory, and Creationism isn't it. Creationism only counts as a hypothesis and has no actual evidence supporting it,

As soon as you can prove god created the earth, I'm sure it will be given some thought. Until such time, to even attempt to assert that god created the earth and remain honest would be impossible.



Only your beliefs require faith. Mine are backed with evidence, logic, and reason.

You are the only person that believes that something came from nothing. The big bang theory states that all the matter for everything everywhere was condensed down into a very small point, then expanded, and continues to expand.

Wrong, the big bang theory can and has been proven, unlike your god hypothesis.

Just because people believe something doesn't make it true. That which you describe in this sentence is a classic case of appealing to a common practice.

It is taught as a theory. So tell me, what is your problem then?


I will agree, with the following condition. People should know what others believe, but they should also know that what some people believe is not based in fact and evidence and it should not be taught in schools.

You are so full of crap I can smell it from here. I guess I missed where the big bang theory turned into the big bang fact. That small point of matter that is expanding....where did it come from? You don't know. That is where faith comes in. You saying there is absolutely no proof of creationism just shows you are ignorant. Again, I guess the 5 billion people who believe in God must be wrong and you must be right. I am so glad the world has you to bring us out of the darkness into the light...believing some matter that came from...well somewhere...and formed goo that eventually evolved into human beings is way more rational than a Supreme Being created everything.

http://184.154.224.5/~creatio1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36

[564826]

I was created by my Lord and Savior and Amen to that. For the rest of you heathens, well, you came from monkey jizz. Which explains why we have so much Animal Erotica and Depravity in our society today. What's wrong with teaching science in a public school and religion in a christian school? As a matter of fact we should be taught both.

[racrguy]

Sorry, bro. I gave you an opportunity to speak your case, but you instead just wanted to say how "uneducated" I am and not want to address issues. I even went as far as starting to go through them with you one at a time so nothing would get lost in translation. LOL

I didn't mean to make you cry or throw a fit. Again, I am truely sorry.

I asked you for a list of issues, you still refuse to provide said list. I'm not going to go through this one issue at a time with you, I never said I wouldn't educate you, just that there were certain requirements I had of you before I invested my time in doing so. And yes, you are uneducated on this topic. When you are willing to provide said list, then we'll go from there, but I'm not going to chase you around and continually ask you "what else." We'll never get anywhere that way.

[exlude]

Well, when postulating anything that is not expressly written in the Bible, their hypothesis are mostly their own opinions alone.

[The King]

They say that every single species on this planet was created at the beginning and has always been here.

At least they accept adaptation now. That was denied by the creationist camp up through the 80s.

"They" don't say anything of the sort unless "they" are speaking their own opinions. The Bible simply says that God created everything.

[Denny]

I haven't got a clue what your issues are with evolution. But as far as having a clue about evolution, you're dead wrong.

If you really wanted to know about it then your list of issues with it would be on the top of your head and would require no effort on your part to list out so they can be addressed.

I expect you to refrain from attempting speak about creationism or evolution here on the boards since your M.O. is to remain willfully ignorant of the facts.

You've shown that you don't have any clue what you're talking about. When people have attempted to educate you on the subject you've dismissed it without cause, or come up with the baseless assertion that someone doesn't have a clue about something and left the conversation before any of your issues have been addressed. I asked you for a list of issues, you said you wanted to stick to one. I'm sorry, but that's not the way it works. If I'm going to take the time to educate you on something that you obviously know nothing about then I want to know everything you have a problem with so that I can address them. That does 2 things, 1) It helps me make sure I don't miss any of your problems and 2) It keeps you from moving the goalpost.

You may take your fail and GTFO now.

Sorry, bro. I gave you an opportunity to speak your case, but you instead just wanted to say how "uneducated" I am and not want to address issues. I even went as far as starting to go through them with you one at a time so nothing would get lost in translation. LOL

I didn't mean to make you cry or throw a fit. Again, I am truely sorry.

[exlude]

we know that different animals have come into and exited from existence at different times through out the history of the earth. so obviously they were not created at the same time, let alone the same day. so if they did not evolve from other species or animals, where did they come from? how do creationists explain this?

They say that every single species on this planet was created at the beginning and has always been here.

At least they accept adaptation now. That was denied by the creationist camp up through the 80s.

[racrguy]

Translation: You haven't got a clue.

Roger that. I'll leave you alone now.

I haven't got a clue what your issues are with evolution. But as far as having a clue about evolution, you're dead wrong.

If you really wanted to know about it then your list of issues with it would be on the top of your head and would require no effort on your part to list out so they can be addressed.

I expect you to refrain from attempting speak about creationism or evolution here on the boards since your M.O. is to remain willfully ignorant of the facts.

You've shown that you don't have any clue what you're talking about. When people have attempted to educate you on the subject you've dismissed it without cause, or come up with the baseless assertion that someone doesn't have a clue about something and left the conversation before any of your issues have been addressed. I asked you for a list of issues, you said you wanted to stick to one. I'm sorry, but that's not the way it works. If I'm going to take the time to educate you on something that you obviously know nothing about then I want to know everything you have a problem with so that I can address them. That does 2 things, 1) It helps me make sure I don't miss any of your problems and 2) It keeps you from moving the goalpost.

You may take your fail and GTFO now.

[Denny]

Just because you can't handle more than one issue at a time doesn't mean that I should limit my explanation. I'd like to point out that every time you've been given evidence you've dismissed it without cause. And when you cite sources that you think agree with you, they actually say exactly the opposite of what you claim they do. Before I try and explain anything further to you, I require the list of issues you have regarding the validity of evolution. And please, don't try to use the same old tired line about how evolution doesn't know how life began. Evolution doesn't take into account how life started, merely how it changes over time.

Translation: You haven't got a clue.

Roger that. I'll leave you alone now.

[Cannonball996]

we know that different animals have come into and exited from existence at different times through out the history of the earth. so obviously they were not created at the same time, let alone the same day. so if they did not evolve from other species or animals, where did they come from? how do creationists explain this?

[racrguy]

Sigh... just start with one. Just one, please.

Just because you can't handle more than one issue at a time doesn't mean that I should limit my explanation. I'd like to point out that every time you've been given evidence you've dismissed it without cause. And when you cite sources that you think agree with you, they actually say exactly the opposite of what you claim they do. Before I try and explain anything further to you, I require the list of issues you have regarding the validity of evolution. And please, don't try to use the same old tired line about how evolution doesn't know how life began. Evolution doesn't take into account how life started, merely how it changes over time.

[Denny]

Sigh... just start with one. Just one, please.

[racrguy]

Is that my only hang up? No, LOL... just waiting to tackle that issue forst (have to start somewhere).

Since I'm so uneducated, misinformed and using the incorrect terminology, you might have a challenge dumbing it down for a meager simpleton.

What are all your hang ups so we don't play 20 questions.

I'm good on this. Evolution cannot explain the beginning, we can. They have missing links, we don't, both require faith. Teach them both

You have an assertion with no evidence, therefore you can explain nothing. And only believers have faith.

[Forever_frost]

Creationism is a wide held theory as is Evolution. Why not just teach both? Not necessarily Jesus created the earth but that God did and only as a theory. Both require some level of faith. You have to either have faith in God or you have to have faith that in the very beginning something had to come from nothing aka big bang. Neither can be absolutely proved. 88% of the worlds population believe in some form of God so it should get equal attention as a theory. I'm a Christian and don't mind evolution being taught as a theory. We should all be well informed of what others believe.

I'm good on this. Evolution cannot explain the beginning, we can. They have missing links, we don't, both require faith. Teach them both

[Denny]

Is that my only hang up? No, LOL... just waiting to tackle that issue forst (have to start somewhere).

Since I'm so uneducated, misinformed and using the incorrect terminology, you might have a challenge dumbing it down for a meager simpleton.