Fight over teaching evolution in Texas fizzles

[mustangguy289]

You also believe in a magic man in the sky. Just because you believe something to be one way, does not mean that it is not another way.

For instance, you may go outside and think the sky is purple, when it is in fact blue.

What you said is true for every single person in this thread. Why single me out? If any of these things in the thread were facts... hardcore proven... we would not be discussing any of this.

When we all die there is only one argument in this thread that will matter.... that is the argument of an afterlife. If the ones who believe are wrong, no big deal. If the ones who don't believe are wrong, well sucks for them.

[racrguy]

That's racists.

I believe things evolve over time. Certain species adapt to their surroundings through evolution, etc. I do not believe the human being evolved from an ape.

You also believe in a magic man in the sky. Just because you believe something to be one way, does not mean that it is not another way.

For instance, you may go outside and think the sky is purple, when it is in fact blue.

[exlude]

That's racists.

I believe things evolve over time. Certain species adapt to their surroundings through evolution, etc. I do not believe the human being evolved from an ape.

It all depends on how old you accept life to be in that case. If you accept microevolution (adaptation) then given an infinite amount of time the only logical conclusion is macroevolution (speciation). That is, if a species changes bit by bit over time and this change is not affecting the entire population of the species, eventually one sub group will change enough from another geographically isolated sub group to be identified as separate species.

[Cannonball996]

That is a bunch of bs. There is not any evidence at all.

your kidding right?

[mustangguy289]

Humans didn’t evolve from apes because we are still apes. Great Apes, to be exact.

That's racists.

I believe things evolve over time. Certain species adapt to their surroundings through evolution, etc. I do not believe the human being evolved from an ape.

[Maddhattter]

Can you show me what you claim as fact?

Considering evolution is a process that works over many generations, no one could show you evolution on a forum. There are some wonderful scientific studies that have been performed that demonstrate the validity of evolution.

Such as
2008 Strauss, S.Y., J.A. Lau, T.W. Schoener and P. Tiffin. Evolution in ecological field experiments: implications for effect size. Ecology Letters 11: 199-207

and

Wielgoss, S., J. E. Barrick, O. Tenaillon, S. Cruvellier, B. Chane-Woon-Ming, C. Médigue, R. E. Lenski, and D. Schneider. 2011. Mutation rate inferred from synonymous substitutions in a long-term evolution experiment with Escherichia coli. G3: Genes, Genomes, Genetics: in press.

Why did some primates evolve and some didn't?

No primate stopped evolving, nor did any other living genetic line. Your question demonstrates your misunderstanding of what evolution is and how it works.

Did the test and show that a monkey evolved into a human in a lab?

If this is your criteria, which it seems to be given the context of the post, then surely you must know that gravity is "only a theory" and we have no experiments showing how it works, only that it does. As we can see it's effects, but are unable to demonstrate exactly how it works. So, if you could keep your questions relevant to science when discussing science, it would be helpful.

But, to directly address your question, you will never find an experiment that will “show that a monkey evolved into a human” anywhere. You’re building a poorly constructed straw man of the evolutionary theory. Humans didn’t evolve from apes because we are still apes. Great Apes, to be exact.

If you have any other questions, and I can answer them, feel free to ask.

Remember to teach the controversy!!

[mustangguy289]

So much HERP A DERP up in here.

A colloquial theory is an idea

Scientific theory has been peer reviewed and tested, proven to be true. As factual as we can prove with current science.

Fact, evolution exists. Fact, we evolved from earlier primates.

Not fact, the story of creation as told in the bible.

Creationism/ID would be a Hypothesis, as it is an untested idea that might explain the data. It cannot, however, ever be a scientific theory as it cannot be tested.

Can you show me what you claim as fact? Why did some primates evolve and some didn't? Did the test and show that a monkey evolved into a human in a lab?

[racrguy]

So much HERP A DERP up in here.

A colloquial theory is an idea

Scientific theory has been peer reviewed and tested, proven to be true. As factual as we can prove with current science.

Fact, evolution exists. Fact, we evolved from earlier primates.

Not fact, the story of creation as told in the bible.

Creationism/ID would be a Hypothesis, as it is an untested idea that might explain the data. It cannot, however, ever be a scientific theory as it cannot be tested.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

He can intercede if petitioned to do so, as through prayer. Outside of that, He can also intercede in controlling His Creation, if need be, at the point at which mankind is on the cusp of destroyng it.

(I know "on the cusp of" is an irritating term, that's why I chose it.)

On the basis of your beliefs and Biblical understanding, I can't argue this point. Well, I could but we both know it's moot.

What I'm really trying to get at is that either random events occur in nature or they do not. The manifestation of probability theory in the propagation of natural life speaks loudly.

Your brand of antagonism always amuses me.

[Gargamel]

gtfo of here with that shit...higher education in science has no place in dfwm

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