No license plates needed in Texas!!

[03trubluGT]

Oklahoma, Florida, Tennessee and Michigan as well as a long list of other states did away with motor vehicle inspections long ago and i have yet to hear of any difference in the quality of vehicles on their roads because of it. It was important when cars were made out of old soup cans and wore out at 100K miles. Not so much today.

As for the registration issue, plates should be ran through the computer to see if a car is registered, I can print out a convincing copy of that sticker from any laser printer as can anyone else. Same goes for the inspection sticker for that matter. It is absurd that those are even trusted unless the entire reason for their existing is giving probable cause for traffic stops.

It would be interesting to see the stats in reference to this. I wonder what the impact has been on those states.

There is a difference between a convincing copy and something that would actually fool an expert. I have a friend with a 2007 Shelby that made a copy of his registration with a color laser printer and you can tell that it's a fake. He carries the original one in the car. He wanted to keep all documentation pertaining to the car if/when he decides to sell it.

The reg. stickers are useless and cheap crap that can easily be duplicated. Hell even the plates are cheap stickers, no longer stamped like they used to be. They're probably just as easy to alter.


He's right about the exp. reg. meaning no insurance. However, a drive through the ghetto will show you that dealer tags on half the cars is probably for the same reason. When the hell is the state going to close that loophole?

The plates are HORRIBLE! Along with the smaller font, I hate the fact that they are not stamped. The stamping throws a shadow that makes the plate easier to read.

[Baba Ganoush]

The reg. stickers are useless and cheap crap that can easily be duplicated. Hell even the plates are cheap stickers, no longer stamped like they used to be. They're probably just as easy to alter.


He's right about the exp. reg. meaning no insurance. However, a drive through the ghetto will show you that dealer tags on half the cars is probably for the same reason. When the hell is the state going to close that loophole?

[Broncojohnny]

I started LEO-ing when the registration stickers went on the back plate. The problem was when you had a couple of years worth of build up, you could scrape off the stickers and put them on your car (if your car was expired). Now you have to run the plate from behind to tell if the plate is valid.

The good thing about having it in the windshield is that it's harder to steal, and very difficult to coutnerfiet. An officer can now watch oncoming traffic and check inspection and registration at the same time. Registration being out is a VERY good indication of having no insurance (since you aren't supposed to get registered w/o insurance), so I like it being in the windshield.

I'll agree that the inspection gets on my nerves at times, but could you imagine the quality of vehicles on the road if there were no inspection???? It's bad enough as it is.

Oklahoma, Florida, Tennessee and Michigan as well as a long list of other states did away with motor vehicle inspections long ago and i have yet to hear of any difference in the quality of vehicles on their roads because of it. It was important when cars were made out of old soup cans and wore out at 100K miles. Not so much today.

As for the registration issue, plates should be ran through the computer to see if a car is registered, I can print out a convincing copy of that sticker from any laser printer as can anyone else. Same goes for the inspection sticker for that matter. It is absurd that those are even trusted unless the entire reason for their existing is giving probable cause for traffic stops.

[03trubluGT]

So you're saying you need to raise money for your kids' Christmas with more stupid fines and tickets? I kid, I kid!

In 20 years, I've never gotten a bonus, let alone a toaster.

[03trubluGT]

I'm sure there will be plenty of cops out trying to write tickets for it even though they can't. They tend to do that when they get their feelings hurt.

Anyway, I'm all for having a back plate. But the front needs to disappear and so does the stupid registration sticker and the whole state inspection program along with it. All of those are huge wastes of time and energy.

I started LEO-ing when the registration stickers went on the back plate. The problem was when you had a couple of years worth of build up, you could scrape off the stickers and put them on your car (if your car was expired). Now you have to run the plate from behind to tell if the plate is valid.

The good thing about having it in the windshield is that it's harder to steal, and very difficult to coutnerfiet. An officer can now watch oncoming traffic and check inspection and registration at the same time. Registration being out is a VERY good indication of having no insurance (since you aren't supposed to get registered w/o insurance), so I like it being in the windshield.

I'll agree that the inspection gets on my nerves at times, but could you imagine the quality of vehicles on the road if there were no inspection???? It's bad enough as it is.

[juiceweezl]

Before all these guys get drove up and think they don't have to run a front plate, the author of that article is reading the statute solely on it's own merit without regards to the rest of the traffic code.

IIRC, there is a catch all statute in the Traffic Code that states penalties for those offenses not specifically listed in the individual statutes.

So, while the statute itself does not call for a penalty, it's covered elsewhere in the Code.

I don't have the gumption to look it up now, I'll have to get ahold of a book when I get to work Saturday.

So you're saying you need to raise money for your kids' Christmas with more stupid fines and tickets? I kid, I kid!

[03trubluGT]

Before all these guys get drove up and think they don't have to run a front plate, the author of that article is reading the statute solely on it's own merit without regards to the rest of the traffic code.

IIRC, there is a catch all statute in the Traffic Code that states penalties for those offenses not specifically listed in the individual statutes.

So, while the statute itself does not call for a penalty, it's covered elsewhere in the Code.

I don't have the gumption to look it up now, I'll have to get ahold of a book when I get to work Saturday.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

Its still illegal, there just isn't a penalty, if I read it correctly.

That's the impression I got. Like the removal of penalty for failure to identify yourself as CHL to police. They may not be able to enforce it specifically, but that doesn't mean they can't or won't fuck with you over it.

[GhostTX]

Its still illegal, there just isn't a penalty, if I read it correctly.

That's the way I read it, too.

Here's your ticket, but you don't need to do anything with it.

[Baron Von Crowder]

Its still illegal, there just isn't a penalty, if I read it correctly.

[2165 Turbo Rail]

here is 03TruBluGT's comment about this in the other thread

Before all these guys get drove up and think they don't have to run a front plate, the author of that article is reading the statute solely on it's own merit without regards to the rest of the traffic code.

There is a catch all statute in the Traffic Code that states penalties for those offenses not specifically listed in statute.

So, while the statute itself does not call for a penalty, it's covered elsewhere in the Code.

I don't have the gumption to look it up now, I'll have to get ahold of a book when I get to work Saturday.

[Baba Ganoush]

I'm sure there will be plenty of cops out trying to write tickets for it even though they can't. They tend to do that when they get their feelings hurt.

Anyway, I'm all for having a back plate. But the front needs to disappear and so does the stupid registration sticker and the whole state inspection program along with it. All of those are huge wastes of time and energy.

Agreed, especially on the registration stickers/front plate.


It appears this subject matter is being debated in the other thread on the Back Porch.

http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21732

[Broncojohnny]

I'm sure there will be plenty of cops out trying to write tickets for it even though they can't. They tend to do that when they get their feelings hurt.

Anyway, I'm all for having a back plate. But the front needs to disappear and so does the stupid registration sticker and the whole state inspection program along with it. All of those are huge wastes of time and energy.

[2165 Turbo Rail]

Osiris!
03TruBluGT!

[Baba Ganoush]

Damn, for real?

I bet they still pull you over and cite you for lack of front plate, regardless of this little hick-up.

We need a resident LEO and attorney to comment on this subject matter.