Obama tells Bishops off

[Vertnut]

I'm disagreeing with any federal law stating you have to buy anything for any reason. They do not have the right.
And as far as any reason you should not drive, it's not your business, or the governments. The instance where others (you or the government) should get involve is if the person driving causes damage or a loss to others. This is what common law is. And this is what the U.S. was based on....Common Law... But we where not educated on this in any school.

With auto insurance, it's about liability isues if you harm or kill someone and don't have the funds to cover the damage you created. What would you suggest if someone hits your new Shelby, and has no visible means of support, much less the money to cover the damages to you and your car? Medical bills can be astronomical just for calling out an ambulance. Hell, my buddy was Care-Flighted and it was $20k just for the ride.

[tazz007]

So what is "driving"? If you're vision is bad, the state can tell you not to drive. The state can't tell you to not live. You can choose not to drive, so you won't need insurance. You HAVE to live, so they can force insurance on you? I'm not sure what your disagreeing with.

I'm disagreeing with any federal law stating you have to buy anything for any reason. They do not have the right.
And as far as any reason you should not drive, it's not your business, or the governments. The instance where others (you or the government) should get involve is if the person driving causes damage or a loss to others. This is what common law is. And this is what the U.S. was based on....Common Law... But we where not educated on this in any school.

[YALE]

What's not to understand about the BC issue? It's no secret that the catholic church does not condone any form of birth control. If you're employed by a hospital, school, or other business backed by the catholic church, you shouldn't expect them to deviate from their core beliefs. Do I agree with their beliefs? No. That's why I don't work for them.

I understand it now, I just dislike it. That's what freedom is about, though.

[Treasure Chest]

Now that, I understand.

What's not to understand about the BC issue? It's no secret that the catholic church does not condone any form of birth control. If you're employed by a hospital, school, or other business backed by the catholic church, you shouldn't expect them to deviate from their core beliefs. Do I agree with their beliefs? No. That's why I don't work for them.

[YALE]

It's not much different than someone signing a morality clause to gain admission to a Christian university, then bitching when they get kicked out for being caught in a compromising position. It sucks, but the expectations are well defined.

Now that, I understand.

[Treasure Chest]

Well, I guess I'm wrong.

It's not much different than someone signing a morality clause to gain admission to a Christian university, then bitching when they get kicked out for being caught in a compromising position. It sucks, but the expectations are well defined.

[YALE]

Well, I guess I'm wrong.

[Treasure Chest]

Fair enough. They're still on the wrong end of this BC thing, and that's what all this is about.

I have to disagree on this one. The federal government has no right to tell the church what they should cover. The employees know, going into their employment, what the church's stance is on birth control, and if that's a deal breaker, they are free to turn the job down or pay for birth control out of pocket.

[Forever_frost]

Her speech to congress was on behalf of her friend that uses specific birth control to prevent ovarian cysts. It wasn't about sex, and his position that a girl uses bc every time she has sex is a highly uninformed one. It's not like Viagra.

I heard her speech to Congress. She blatantly lied about the cost, she chose to engage in sexual activity, she chose to go to that school, the both chose to utilize the school's programs they knew didn't provide birth control coverage, ignored available resources that do provide BC very cheaply and demanded government do it. That makes her a lying slut

[Vertnut]

Her speech to congress was on behalf of her friend that uses specific birth control to prevent ovarian cysts. It wasn't about sex, and his position that a girl uses bc every time she has sex is a highly uninformed one. It's not like Viagra.

Did you hear her speech? I did. She's been an activist for years, and was invited to speak by design. She was a plant. I didn't know that rubbers helped ovarian cysts? Condoms (and the price of them) was brought up in her oratory, too. Free birth control is available at any Planned Parenthood office. You're right, though...It's not about birth control. Just control.

Her paying $1000 a year for birth control shoud be a dead giveaway that she's a shill.

[YALE]

And Rush wasn't attacking this bitch because she was a woman. She was attacked because she evidently spends 3k a year on bc which everyone else can get for 3 bucks a month and has decided that since she likes fucking, WE should be paying for it.

Her speech to congress was on behalf of her friend that uses specific birth control to prevent ovarian cysts. It wasn't about sex, and his position that a girl uses bc every time she has sex is a highly uninformed one. It's not like Viagra.

[Forever_frost]

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No. No woman hating attitude here. Just a man trying to express his point if view. Please strike the name calling from the record.

I'll apologize when Mahr does. I didn't see you getting pissed about him calling Palin a cunt and a twat but you're pissed about this ditzy bitch being called a slut? You're a two faced cock gobbler ass clown.

[Vertnut]

As usual, you pull numbers out of your sphincter, then call it a "debate"? You're way over your head...again.

[Avery'sDad]

Wrong. Again.

Cmon really. I know your debating skills are better than that.

[QUOTE=Forever_frost;618641]You mean "you're" not "your". If a woman needs anything, she has the ability to go pay $3.00 a month to get birth control or find an insurance company that provides it. Perhaps you can show me in the constitution where the federal government has the ability to demand anything about insurance.

And Rush wasn't attacking this bitch because she wa
s a woman. She was attacked because she evidently spends 3k a year on bc which everyone else can get for 3 bucks a month and has decided that since she likes fucking, WE should be paying for yiit.[/oQUOTE]

No. No woman hating attitude here. Just a man trying to express his point if view. Please strike the name calling from the record.

[Avery'sDad]

Wrong. Again.

Cmon really. I know your debating skills are better than that.

[QUOTE=Forever_frost;618641]You mean "you're" not "your". If a woman needs anything, she has the ability to go pay $3.00 a month to get birth control or find an insurance company that provides it. Perhaps you can show me in the constitution where the federal government has the ability to demand anything about insurance.

And Rush wasn't attacking this bitch because she wa
s a woman. She was attacked because she evidently spends 3k a year on bc which everyone else can get for 3 bucks a month and has decided that since she likes fucking, WE should be paying for yiit.[/oQUOTE]

No. No woman hating attitude here. Just a man trying to express his point if view. Please strike the name calling.