US staff sergeant kills 16 Afghan civilians

[Forever_frost]

Yet not a word on Hasan

[KBScobravert]

Leon Panetta said the death penalty is on the table already.

[Forever_frost]

Yes, because that happens all the time here in America...

You don't think his family won't be targeted by people pissed off by his actions?

[SS Junk]

They now have a huge bullseye on them and I bet some Muslims start picking them off

Yes, because that happens all the time here in America...

Don't care what he's gone through. His problems don't equate to taking 16 lives. Many others have been through hell in wartime. You do not see them doing the same thing. He needs to pay with his life.

I agree.

[KBScobravert]

You also have to understand, I agree with Sun Tzu. You make war so horrible and traumatic that you break the will of your enemies. I don't condone him killing women or children but as I said, he was deployed after suffering TBI and PTSD. Never should have happened.

So have thousands of other people. I agree never should have been deployed but he decided his own actions.

Getting drunk in active war zone while whether knowing/thinking you have an acronym problem is like sucking on a shotgun with your finger on the trigger. We all know it is a wrong combination. Besides introduction, distribution, consumption of intoxicating beverage(s) is a violation of General Order #1. There is a reason that is in the GO.

Out on a mission and you frag a hut you honestly believed to be full of insurgents but turns out to be a daycare is a casualty of war. This was a deliberate act by a lunatic.

[Forever_frost]

You mean people ARE MURDERED! We did not drop a bomb and oops my bad there were a few kids in that hut. He committed a crime; murder.

You also have to understand, I agree with Sun Tzu. You make war so horrible and traumatic that you break the will of your enemies. I don't condone him killing women or children but as I said, he was deployed after suffering TBI and PTSD. Never should have happened.

[KBScobravert]

Actually, it is. Same thing has happened in every war that drags out. You put people in multiple rotations into combat zones, trained to injure and cause harm, and put them against people who are constantly trying not to hurt them, but to kill them and their friends? People die. Happens. Wish it didn't but you can't put someone in 4 rotations with mental illness, brain damage and add another trigger on top of it and expect nothing to happen

You mean people ARE MURDERED! We did not drop a bomb and oops my bad there were a few kids in that hut. He committed a crime; murder.

[Forever_frost]

Deliberate acts of murder are not "splash damage casualties". That is just insane to even say "war is hell (my bad)".

He walked off a COP, past guards mind you that had to be thinking "where is this idiot going?", into the adjacent village and was not there for chai tea or to ask how they were. He went there with the entent to murder.

War IS hell, this was not war it was murder. Put him to death, twice!

Actually, it is. Same thing has happened in every war that drags out. You put people in multiple rotations into combat zones, trained to injure and cause harm, and put them against people who are constantly trying not to hurt them, but to kill them and their friends? People die. Happens. Wish it didn't but you can't put someone in 4 rotations with mental illness, brain damage and add another trigger on top of it and expect nothing to happen

[KBScobravert]

How do you figure? The military system will handle him. War is hell and you put troops in the theater, you can't get pissed when there are splash damage casualties

Deliberate acts of murder are not "splash damage casualties". That is just insane to even say "war is hell (my bad)".

He walked off a COP, past guards mind you that had to be thinking "where is this idiot going?", into the adjacent village and was not there for chai tea or to ask how they were. He went there with the entent to murder.

War IS hell, this was not war it was murder. Put him to death, twice!

[Forever_frost]

While what happened to him sucks, that doesn't excuse the fact that he still killed 16 people. Temporary insanity is such a bullshit copout.

But a legal defense to actions.




And hell, they released his name. I feel sorry for his family. They now have a huge bullseye on them and I bet some Muslims start picking them off

[racrguy]

Actually, you do. And I don't recall obama calling for the full force of the law used against Hasan. He was telling us to "wait to pass judgement." Tell you what, head to theater for 4 rotations, get hit by 2 IED's, get a TBI (actual brain structural and chemical changes), PTSD and go missing half your foot THEN see your brother killed the day before and tell me what you'll do. Tell me you won't go looking for a pound of flesh.

He's going to burn because Obama wants him to. He should be sent to a mental health facility because if there's any case on earth for temporary insanity, this is it.

While what happened to him sucks, that doesn't excuse the fact that he still killed 16 people. Temporary insanity is such a bullshit copout.

[SS Junk]

I fully believe he is a victim of circumstance. Never did I say what he's gone through is not traumatic. What I did say is that many many other armed forces personnel have gone through the same thing yet you don't see them lighting up villages or civilians. He should pay for his mistake by dying.

[Forever_frost]

Don't care what he's gone through. His problems don't equate to taking 16 lives. Many others have been through hell in wartime. You do not see them doing the same thing. He needs to pay with his life.

Actually, you do. And I don't recall obama calling for the full force of the law used against Hasan. He was telling us to "wait to pass judgement." Tell you what, head to theater for 4 rotations, get hit by 2 IED's, get a TBI (actual brain structural and chemical changes), PTSD and go missing half your foot THEN see your brother killed the day before and tell me what you'll do. Tell me you won't go looking for a pound of flesh.

He's going to burn because Obama wants him to. He should be sent to a mental health facility because if there's any case on earth for temporary insanity, this is it.

[SS Junk]

Don't care what he's gone through. His problems don't equate to taking 16 lives. Many others have been through hell in wartime. You do not see them doing the same thing. He needs to pay with his life.