Parents Upset Over Lunchtime Palm Scanner

[line-em-up]

My point exactly. Won't happen here.


Won't happen here. Not in a civilized society. There aren't enough people to care. We are too reactionary so once something like this hits more areas it will be too late to do anything about it. You know as well as I do we are being conditioned for this to happen so we will not put up a fight.

I think you are mostly correct. That doesn't mean I will give up without a fight. If we could get an inspirational leader to emerge, then I think there would be a lot of people to think in that way too.

[Forever_frost]

My point exactly. Won't happen here.


Won't happen here. Not in a civilized society. There aren't enough people to care. We are too reactionary so once something like this hits more areas it will be too late to do anything about it. You know as well as I do we are being conditioned for this to happen so we will not put up a fight.

Civilized? You dont' watch the news do you? We don't have a civilized society, we have a thin veneer covering a bunch of savages.

[SS Junk]

Think a little farther east.

My point exactly. Won't happen here.

How do you think we got the country? Some will be killed, but if there is enough drive, then there are none in power too high to touch.

Won't happen here. Not in a civilized society. There aren't enough people to care. We are too reactionary so once something like this hits more areas it will be too late to do anything about it. You know as well as I do we are being conditioned for this to happen so we will not put up a fight.

[Forever_frost]

Governments were overthrown in these United States? LOL. You'll be shot dead before that happens.

How do you think we got the country? Some will be killed, but if there is enough drive, then there are none in power too high to touch.

[line-em-up]

Governments were overthrown in these United States? LOL. You'll be shot dead before that happens.

Think a little farther east.

[SS Junk]

Governments were overthrown in these United States? LOL. You'll be shot dead before that happens.

[line-em-up]

While you're at it, go ahead and start lobbying for cheaper gas prices. If everyone else did the same, we wouldn't have this problem.

Gas prices fall under the heading of capitalism. Scanners under communism. You have to pick your fights. I know you are being sarcastic, but look at the things that have happened recently after the citizens stood up. Govts were overthrown.

[Forever_frost]

Do you realize how close you have to be to an RFID chip to scan it? You can't shoot a fucking laser beam from across the parking lot.

You can stand right outside the door, walk past them, hell ask directions while your scanner reads their cards. Cops use their scanners to read your phone at traffic stops, you think criminals aren't clever with tech?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/08/fed-rfid/

Feds at DefCon Alarmed After RFIDs Scanned

“For $30 to $50, the common, average person can put [a portable RFID-reading kit] together…. This is why we’re so adamant about making people aware this is very dangerous. If you don’t protect yourself, you’re potentially exposing your entire [company or agency] to all sorts of risk.”

[ceyko]

Do you realize how close you have to be to an RFID chip to scan it? You can't shoot a fucking laser beam from across the parking lot.

Well, they could loiter outside the school easily enough. Security is not really security at these schools.

[lowthreeohz]

Which are impossible for child molesters to get. Yes, I want a guy sitting outside a school with a scanner finding out where kids they want live and what times they go to lunch and get out of and to school.

Do you realize how close you have to be to an RFID chip to scan it? You can't shoot a fucking laser beam from across the parking lot.

[Forever_frost]

The article posted says the "RFID chips are always broadcasting.."

orly? most rfid's of this nature are passive not active.

tracking them "everywhere they go" would require a rather extensive network of RFID scanners.

Which are impossible for child molesters to get. Yes, I want a guy sitting outside a school with a scanner finding out where kids they want live and what times they go to lunch and get out of and to school.

[lowthreeohz]

The article posted says the "RFID chips are always broadcasting.."

orly? most rfid's of this nature are passive not active.

tracking them "everywhere they go" would require a rather extensive network of RFID scanners.

[ceyko]

Actually yes. There are more people who want to be left alone than people who want government to scan their kids twice a day and, in the case of the RF chips, tracking them anywhere they go. It's about freedom and leaving your kids with at least as much as you have.

I understand this, and am unsure of what you're arguing.

[silverhatch]

We should all group by a tanker truck.

[Forever_frost]

Ah, FF. You're one funny duck with a little detachment from reality. Do you REALLY think you're opinion would matter in Baltimore? That's the general point I was trying to make. You can do everything possible - being retired - and it would still be futile. There are plenty more there that people care about more than you and your opinion.

These large districts will set precedence and it's done. Even if you do keep it out of your smaller district (I live in one too, specifically because of this shit) - every other kid grew up used to it - totally negating any good that we agree on.

Actually yes. There are more people who want to be left alone than people who want government to scan their kids twice a day and, in the case of the RF chips, tracking them anywhere they go. It's about freedom and leaving your kids with at least as much as you have.