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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by DallasSleeper View Post
    Her employer confirmed that this was on company time, the 8 employees were taking their 40 patients to visit the sights in DC when this photo was taken.
    Not in anything I have read. Source?

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  • BMCSean
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Depends on when exactly it happened, which nobody has confirmed. I'm out of town every week. If I'm out seeing the sights, it's my time, not company time.
    True, depends on the circumstances. As a veteran, I find this extremely disrespectful, but I acknowledge her right, just like every citizen, to freedom of speech. I enjoy a good joke or a poke at "the man" but this is neither IMO, mocking the people that fought and died to continue to allow you to even have that right is shameful, just my pesonal opinion.

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  • DallasSleeper
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Depends on when exactly it happened, which nobody has confirmed. I'm out of town every week. If I'm out seeing the sights, it's my time, not company time.
    Her employer confirmed that this was on company time, the 8 employees were taking their 40 patients to visit the sights in DC when this photo was taken.

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  • DallasSleeper
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    The first amendment protects citizens from government retribution for said speech. It does not protect against private judgement and life consequences for said speech. But it is typical for the average American these days to not realize that actions should and do have consequence. She cannot be put in jail for this action and rightly so. However, anyone can publicly shame her for such ignorant actions, also rightly so. If we as humans don't show we expect better from each other, we will never get better. I think if the citizenry in general understood the Constitution, we wouldn't be in the mess we are currently in. But most Americans only want the Constitution to be followed when it benefits their needs, and as our last election proved, are perfectly happy to wipe their asses with it when it doesn't.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by Downs View Post
    If I open carry in a state that allows it I might be questioned by the police even though I'm well within my rights to do so. It happens.
    Yes, every action has a consequence. However, you're comparing apples and oranges. Being questioned in an open carry state is a legality issue. She did nothing illegal. Come up with a better analogy if you want to be taken seriously.

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  • Downs
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    Exercising your rights can sometimes have consequences. She might loose her job over this that is the consequence for exercising her right. If I open carry in a state that allows it I might be questioned by the police even though I'm well within my rights to do so. It happens.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by BMCSean View Post
    She did it on company time, her co-worker took the picture.
    Depends on when exactly it happened, which nobody has confirmed. I'm out of town every week. If I'm out seeing the sights, it's my time, not company time.

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  • Nash B.
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    I really fail to see what the company she works for has to do with anything at all. What people are doing, is outright harassment. She's a fucking moron, no doubt. But with few exceptions (military, police, and politics), what people do on their time is their business.
    Someone that works for an organization that works for wounded veterans posing in a picture that mocks veterans doesn't reflect well for that organization, especially when it was done on company time.
    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Oh, I must have missed that part of the First Amendment.
    A company firing someone for Constitutionally-protected speech doesn't violate their First Amendment rights.

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  • BMCSean
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    Bitch, I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.





    I really fail to see what the company she works for has to do with anything at all. What people are doing, is outright harassment. She's a fucking moron, no doubt. But with few exceptions (military, police, and politics), what people do on their time is their business.
    She did it on company time, her co-worker took the picture.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    I really fail to see what the company she works for has to do with anything at all. What people are doing, is outright harassment. She's a fucking moron, no doubt. But with few exceptions (military, police, and politics), what people do on their time is their business.
    Yep. Going to her house? Really? Grow the fuck up. OMG, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE. GET 'EM!

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by DallasSleeper View Post
    Freedom of speech does not apply to your employment.

    Oh, I must have missed that part of the First Amendment.

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  • bcoop
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    Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
    as much as it pains me you are right brent.

    Bitch, I'm always right, even when I'm wrong.

    Originally posted by Nash B. View Post
    He said that she has the freedom to do that but should be ready to answer for her actions (in this case, to the organization she works for).


    I really fail to see what the company she works for has to do with anything at all. What people are doing, is outright harassment. She's a fucking moron, no doubt. But with few exceptions (military, police, and politics), what people do on their time is their business.

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  • DallasSleeper
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    Originally posted by bcoop View Post
    I get how incredibly disrespectful this is and all, and Frost's reaction doesn't surprise me one bit. But didn't you serve this country, defending her very right to do what she did? You are vehemently against anything and everything that is not in the Constitution or Bill of Rights, except for when you disagree with someone's use of their right to free speech?
    Freedom of speech does not apply to your employment. This happened on a company outing.

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  • Nash B.
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    He said that she has the freedom to do that but should be ready to answer for her actions (in this case, to the organization she works for).

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  • ELVIS
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    as much as it pains me you are right brent.

    freedom of speech doesnt protect speech you like, but speech you dont.
    and freedom of speech doesnt mean freedom from consequences. ie. she should be chopped in the throat.

    god bless.

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