What would be the spark?

[bobs94formula]

So what would be the spark?

No one knows, but you'll know it when it happens!!!

[LS WHAT ??]

So what would be the spark?

[bobs94formula]

Fair enough. Seemed a strong claim, which is why I'm asking.

I shouldn't have said caused the mental illness, more like it helped it manifest. I work for a state hospital and I didn't realize how bad drugs really affected people until I started working here.

Of course working for the state I get to see the worse end of the spectrum. The people we get are 99% of the time on a court commitment and do not want to be here.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

I'll try and find the stuff on the mass shootings and the drugs part.

The anti depressant statement and ~80-90% statements are from talking to patients and reading their histories.

Fair enough. Seemed a strong claim, which is why I'm asking.

[bobs94formula]

I'm not sure you're speaking from a factual basis here.

Here's an article that suggests that if there is some common determinant in mass murder in the U.S., it might be the result of some individuals internalizing their perceived lack of male dominance. Read this. Some of the statistics they cite support that apparent stressors are financial and social - no mention of drugs, although they did find that 32% of mass murderer in the U.S. since 1970 were committed by people who had mental disorders.

Can you point out where you found that psychotropic drugs are causing or, at least, contributory to mass shootings? Also, can you qualify your statement that antidepressants cause people to not feel anything at all?

Can you support your claim that ~80-90% of people suffering from mental disorders and seeking treatment (or are involuntarily committed) have drug induced mental illnesses? I don't think you have any data to support such a claim.

I'll try and find the stuff on the mass shootings and the drugs part.

The anti depressant statement and ~80-90% statements are from talking to patients and reading their histories.

[BERNIE MOSFET]

One of the big causes is drugs. Both street and psychotropic drugs. If I remember right all mass shootings since the late 80's early 90's have been done by people who were on some kind of drugs, mostly psychotropic. They all have side effects on the user, most "anti depressants" cause you to not feel anything at all.

Another part of the problem with the mental health system is most people in state hospitals don't want the help at all. So they keep bouncing in and out and get worse every time. ~80-90% of the people who go through the state hospital system are there because drugs caused their "mental illness".

I'm not sure you're speaking from a factual basis here.

Here's an article that suggests that if there is some common determinant in mass murder in the U.S., it might be the result of some individuals internalizing their perceived lack of male dominance. Read this. Some of the statistics they cite support that apparent stressors are financial and social - no mention of drugs, although they did find that 32% of mass murderer in the U.S. since 1970 were committed by people who had mental disorders.

Can you point out where you found that psychotropic drugs are causing or, at least, contributory to mass shootings? Also, can you qualify your statement that antidepressants cause people to not feel anything at all?

Can you support your claim that ~80-90% of people suffering from mental disorders and seeking treatment (or are involuntarily committed) have drug induced mental illnesses? I don't think you have any data to support such a claim.

doctorate in dick sucking? call Prof. Geor.

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[ELVIS]

Well, I know what I'm going back to school for.

doctorate in dick sucking? call Prof. Geor.

god bless.

He effectively pushed the mental health industry into the dark seedy alleyways of the black market. Soccer moms will be sucking dick for their kids ADD meds.

Well, I know what I'm going back to school for.

[KBScobravert]

You start telling people who are seeking help that by them asking for help they are forever giving up a God given right? They won't seek help and will get worse

He effectively pushed the mental health industry into the dark seedy alleyways of the black market. Soccer moms will be sucking dick for their kids ADD meds.

[Forever_frost]

You start telling people who are seeking help that by them asking for help they are forever giving up a God given right? They won't seek help and will get worse

[bobs94formula]

True but it was so easy.
Well My almost headshrinker what is your solution to the mental health problem in this country? That is the real cause of these atrocities that have been occurring. It has nothing to do with guns or high capacity mags as most people realize.

One of the big causes is drugs. Both street and psychotropic drugs. If I remember right all mass shootings since the late 80's early 90's have been done by people who were on some kind of drugs, mostly psychotropic. They all have side effects on the user, most "anti depressants" cause you to not feel anything at all.

Another part of the problem with the mental health system is most people in state hospitals don't want the help at all. So they keep bouncing in and out and get worse every time. ~80-90% of the people who go through the state hospital system are there because drugs caused their "mental illness".

[Forever_frost]

If you think they aren't already your dreaming after your idol W rammed the Patriot act down our throats. Yes I know O renewed it and passed another. Like I said he was the lessor of two evils to me.
Especially for you, I'm sure EVERYTHING you post is read by a human. Mine just goes thru a filter and if I say anything crazy it gets read.

I'm quite sure everything I write is read by a human. You agree with the socialist dictator. Of course he likes you and wouldn't watch what you say. Me? I pledge my liberty, my honor and my life to the Constitution.

[Forever_frost]

Is that the only amendment you know?? That's all you seem to parrot. You do realize that EVERY other article and amendment take equal precedence don't you? Since you insist then ok what is one that will work in Texas. One that WILL work tho no copouts.

Actually, I know all of them and have a copy of the constitution in a small book on my desk, one on my phone and one from the National Archives hanging in my game room. You see, I adore the document. You seem unable to tell me where the constitution grants the federal government power to do anything about firearms.

Very well, one that will work in Texas. Where in Texas?

[stevo]

Seems like most people are doing great to me.
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Smells like Olfactory Reference Syndrome to me.

Stevo