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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by talisman View Post
    Exactly. And this where a lot of the problems come from.
    I agree. It displays their humanity and hunger for insert passionate cause here.

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
    Most churches do as well. They rely heavily on the old testament (law) and throw in some new testament (grace) when it bolsters their message. This isn't a continuous behavior, but it is largely present.

    Exactly. And this where a lot of the problems come from.

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  • Sean88gt
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    Originally posted by Forever_frost View Post
    You must have missed the entire New Testament
    Most churches do as well. They rely heavily on the old testament (law) and throw in some new testament (grace) when it bolsters their message. This isn't a continuous behavior, but it is largely present.

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    You can't just cherry pick parts of it that suit your ideals. It either all applies or none of it does, it's either the word of god or it's not, and it's either literal or metaphor. Given the way the text is written, of course. You can point to passages that say "love thy neighbor" and all the happy horseshit that most modern christians decide to cling to and I can point out passages where a completely contradictory statement was made.

    It's supremely entertaining that you condemn churches, yet the "word of god" was written by those same churches.
    You must have missed the entire New Testament

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  • Strychnine
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    Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
    "here at fellowship we are not full of hypocrites, we always have room for one more".

    Romans 3:23

    "Church is not a museum for saints it's a hospital for sinners."

    - Abigail Van Buren

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    I didn't realize it was an all or nothing situation.... I'll wait for him to respond, thanks.
    It was an offer to give you some insight and then a some lunch and drinks afterwards to talk about your thoughts.

    And did you forget where you are? All of our opinions are matters...

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  • Forever_frost
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    Originally posted by Danny46 View Post
    I could care less about this guy, I'd like to see his funeral get protested in hope that his caring family members feel one tiny shred of the sadness and anger felt by those families he picketed.
    They'll feel vindicated as they 'truly are the chosen to spread the message which is why the Devil's minions came to the passing of a great man to scream and shout because his soul was pure and at rest."

    Mental illness is fun

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by Rick Modena View Post
    The man made you an offer, you should accept or deny...
    I didn't realize it was an all or nothing situation.... I'll wait for him to respond, thanks.

    Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
    in the preview for the series next week the pastor said "here at fellowship we are not full of hypocrites, we always have room for one more". I'm "good" because of how i was raised. I'm certain going to church on sunday had some to do with that, but so did getting my ass whipped when i needed it and knowing that i and i alone am responsible for my decisions. I dont care if/who you worship, love, hate it really has nothing to do with me. Going or not going to church makes neither of us any better than each other. I wake up every morning and try to be as good a person as i can be and make sure my son does the same. i think that is the important thing. Romans 3:23, i know it and i believe it.

    god bless.
    Fair enough.

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  • ELVIS
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    It would be stupid of me to think that you are all hypocrits. My stance on the topic is that you're good not because of your religion, but in spite of it. I'll pass on church, but I'm down for lunch if that's ok with you.
    in the preview for the series next week the pastor said "here at fellowship we are not full of hypocrites, we always have room for one more". I'm "good" because of how i was raised. I'm certain going to church on sunday had some to do with that, but so did getting my ass whipped when i needed it and knowing that i and i alone am responsible for my decisions. I dont care if/who you worship, love, hate it really has nothing to do with me. Going or not going to church makes neither of us any better than each other. I wake up every morning and try to be as good a person as i can be and make sure my son does the same. i think that is the important thing. Romans 3:23, i know it and i believe it.

    god bless.

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  • Rick Modena
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    I'll pass on church, but I'm down for lunch if that's ok with you.
    The man made you an offer, you should accept or deny...

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by ELVIS View Post
    https://www.fellowshipchurch.com/imabighypocrite

    you more than welcome to come with Jr and I on Sunday. Just to see if you think we are all what you think we are. I'm really looking forward to this series. I would say we can go get beers after, but im on the wagon for Lent. gladly buy you lunch and beers though. lemme know

    god bless.
    It would be stupid of me to think that you are all hypocrits. My stance on the topic is that you're good not because of your religion, but in spite of it. I'll pass on church, but I'm down for lunch if that's ok with you.

    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    Cool. Show me where Jesus Christ commanded his followers to condemn anybody.


    Hey, no matter what, if a human gets involved it's tainted by sin. Everyone has an agenda - even you. I understand and accept that, and that includes the messages delivered by the various religions over the centuries. I have read the teachings of Jesus and drawn my own conclusions.
    You start from a flawed position. Absolutely nothing I show to you in the bible will change your stance on the topic.

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  • 46Tbird
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    You can't just cherry pick parts of it that suit your ideals. It either all applies or none of it does, it's either the word of god or it's not, and it's either literal or metaphor. Given the way the text is written, of course. You can point to passages that say "love thy neighbor" and all the happy horseshit that most modern christians decide to cling to and I can point out passages where a completely contradictory statement was made.
    Cool. Show me where Jesus Christ commanded his followers to condemn anybody.

    It's supremely entertaining that you condemn churches, yet the "word of god" was written by those same churches.
    Hey, no matter what, if a human gets involved it's tainted by sin. Everyone has an agenda - even you. I understand and accept that, and that includes the messages delivered by the various religions over the centuries. I have read the teachings of Jesus and drawn my own conclusions.

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  • ELVIS
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    To be fair, he quite rigidly stuck to the tenets set forth in the bible, so if that's the requirement of getting into heaven, then he's winning.


    you more than welcome to come with Jr and I on Sunday. Just to see if you think we are all what you think we are. I'm really looking forward to this series. I would say we can go get beers after, but im on the wagon for Lent. gladly buy you lunch and beers though. lemme know

    god bless.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by 46Tbird View Post
    It's kind of sad, actually, that you have put up an impenetrable wall to the message of Christ. We've all seen how churches can be used to manipulate people for their own selfish and malicious reasons. But Christ didn't do that. And you are fucking WRONG about how Westboro Baptists and Fred Phelps have "quite rigidly stuck to the tenets set forth in the bible."





    I agree.
    You can't just cherry pick parts of it that suit your ideals. It either all applies or none of it does, it's either the word of god or it's not, and it's either literal or metaphor. Given the way the text is written, of course. You can point to passages that say "love thy neighbor" and all the happy horseshit that most modern christians decide to cling to and I can point out passages where a completely contradictory statement was made.

    It's supremely entertaining that you condemn churches, yet the "word of god" was written by those same churches.

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