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  • dee
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    Originally posted by YALE View Post
    That's not what I said, and I think there is a difference between a corporation and a person, but the law says there isn't, and in some cases, they have more protections than an individual. If people don't like that, they should work on getting the law changed.
    When do they have more protection? Are you referring to when a board member isn't held accountable for supposed "unknown" actions?

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  • YALE
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    Originally posted by dee View Post
    Agreed.

    A corporation is no different than a regular business owner imo. You either have one person running the show or a board panel that makes a decision as one.
    That's not what I said, and I think there is a difference between a corporation and a person, but the law says there isn't, and in some cases, they have more protections than an individual. If people don't like that, they should work on getting the law changed.

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  • dee
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    Originally posted by YALE View Post
    The main problem is that people have confused an employment perk with a basic human right.
    Agreed.

    A corporation is no different than a regular business owner imo. You either have one person running the show or a board panel that makes a decision as one.

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  • Tx Redneck
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    It doesn't affect:

    • Most birth control pills

    • Condoms

    • Sponges

    • Sterilization

    It does affect:

    • Plan B "morning-after pill"

    • Ella "morning-after pill"

    • Hormonal and copper intrauterine devices (IUDs)

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    I deleted what I typed here earlier so that I could change it up a bit.

    Do you think that corporations should be legally identified as persons, or businesses?
    It's not what I think, it's what the law says. And the law says a corporation is a person. And bestowed upon corporations are the same rights. Which is why this ruling is not dangerous or some major problem we need to worry about. That's the way it has always been, and always interpreted. Obama attempted to strip the already established right away and got his hand slapped.

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    It is by definition a person by law. The fact you're attempting to frame this debate as something other than law, when this discussion entirely revolves around law itself is disingenuous and my opinion comes off petty and desperate.
    I deleted what I typed here earlier so that I could change it up a bit.

    Do you think that corporations should be legally identified as persons, or businesses?
    Last edited by racrguy; 06-30-2014, 09:35 PM.

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by YALE View Post
    The main problem is that people have confused an employment perk with a basic human right.
    That is exactly right. And that's the vehicle this corrupt government is using to install tyranny.

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  • 564826
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    Originally posted by slow99 View Post
    its
    Darn autocorrect

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  • YALE
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    The main problem is that people have confused an employment perk with a basic human right.

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  • Gasser64
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    The fact you're attempting to frame this debate as something other than law, when this discussion entirely revolves around law itself is disingenuous and my opinion comes off petty and desperate.
    Thats his standard MO

    The fact that he thinks hes fooling somebody by doing it is pretty funny tho

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  • CJ
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    Originally posted by racrguy View Post
    But wait. I thought a corporation was a person.
    It is by definition a person by law. The fact you're attempting to frame this debate as something other than law, when this discussion entirely revolves around law itself is disingenuous and my opinion comes off petty and desperate.

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  • slow99
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    Originally posted by 564826 View Post
    You most certainly can, through it's legal department.
    its

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  • racrguy
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    Originally posted by 564826 View Post
    You most certainly can, through it's legal department.
    But wait. I thought a corporation was a person. Can I see this person, can I jail this person if they break a law?

    Not only that, but if you're soooooooo against contraceptives, why are you invested in companies that make them? Seems like a have cake/eat cake scenario.
    Last edited by racrguy; 06-30-2014, 06:26 PM.

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  • BMCSean
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    Originally posted by Unicorn Jeff View Post
    You are. It's call DFWMUSTANGS Inc.

    Welcome Sean
    Thanks bro!

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  • talisman
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    Originally posted by CJ View Post
    It was already in effect, nothing changed. And the fact you see this as worse than universal socialized medicine is pretty disturbing to me. Because that fucking retarded ruling will affect you directly for the rest of your life.

    They both directly effect me for the rest of my life, and corporations being labeled as people and being able to outgun any citizen in terms of contributions effectively makes Average Joe Citizen non existent. Yes, I find that more disturbing than someone telling me I'm required to buy something I was already buying anyway, though both are at the top of the scale as far as bad decisions go.

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