New Antarctic sea-ice record

[Gasser64]

Well now in that we're in agreement.

[exlude]

Wait...is exlude defending global warming?

Not in the popular media stance at all. I'll try to respond to you and Gasser both here.

In a few sentences: My stance is we really know only a little portion of a giant, open system. I also believe the massive human ecosystem out put affects Earth, but so do many other things. I think anthropo global warming exists, but many other parts of the system add to, neutralize, or take away from that influence at any given time. Unsurety in the system makes it important to study and try to influence positively, but we need to be sure of possible effects when taking major economic action.

I'm against categorically rejecting any data simply because it's from "the other side". And categorically rejecting swaths of information because their just "best guesses".

[jyro]

Warmest in 10,000 years?

I had this little argument with the hippie side of my family... they said that we're making it come faster than it should.

They drank the Kool-aid. Warmest in 10,000 years is a total joke. The life on Earth is 4 billion years old. Just to put the 10,000 years in prospective, life on earth is 400,000 times older than that 10,000 years.

[Unicorn Jeff]

If you acknowledge there was an ice age, you must acknowledge global warming is a natural event, obviously.

I had this little argument with the hippie side of my family... they said that we're making it come faster than it should.

[Gasser64]

You sure you went to college?

Material too tough for ya?

[CJ]

If you acknowledge there was an ice age, you must acknowledge global warming is a natural event, obviously.

[Ruffdaddy]

I'm talking the political stance global warming that spearheaded the hunt for man bear pig.

No shit there is climate change...

[TexasDevilDog]

Wait...is exlude defending global warming?

Global warming does happen as does global cooling.

[crapstang]

Wait...is exlude defending climate change?

Science, yo. Breaking news: THE WEATHER CHANGES!

[Ruffdaddy]

Wait...is exlude defending global warming?

[racrguy]

well i guess that explain a little about you .You seem to have a distaste for the general attitude here, people fed up with pseudo science used for politics. When after all this time the debate would have been settled by now if there was concrete evidence from either side

Just wanted to know why you put such faith in something so shakey . . and given the history of the whole global warming debacle you might be better off defending it with chaos theory instead http://fractalfoundation.org/resourc...-chaos-theory/


Unpredictability: Because we can never know all the initial conditions of a complex system in sufficient (i.e. perfect) detail, we cannot hope to predict the ultimate fate of a complex system. Even slight errors in measuring the state of a system will be amplified dramatically, rendering any prediction useless. Since it is impossible to measure the effects of all the butterflies (etc) in the World, accurate long-range weather prediction will always remain impossible.

You sure you went to college?

[YALE]

So you're pulling a Bill O'Reilly now? We just can't know, because reasons?

[Gasser64]

Started shadowing docs and decided I hated it. I joined the reserves while in college, got my degree and went active. I love my profession, simple as that. The pay isn't what I could earn on the outside, but there are few jobs outside of the military that are like mine.

well i guess that explain a little about you .You seem to have a distaste for the general attitude here, people fed up with pseudo science used for politics. When after all this time the debate would have been settled by now if there was concrete evidence from either side

Just wanted to know why you put such faith in something so shakey . . and given the history of the whole global warming debacle you might be better off defending it with chaos theory instead http://fractalfoundation.org/resourc...-chaos-theory/


Unpredictability: Because we can never know all the initial conditions of a complex system in sufficient (i.e. perfect) detail, we cannot hope to predict the ultimate fate of a complex system. Even slight errors in measuring the state of a system will be amplified dramatically, rendering any prediction useless. Since it is impossible to measure the effects of all the butterflies (etc) in the World, accurate long-range weather prediction will always remain impossible.

[exlude]

Must have been wrong person. Oh well

I'm good at all the math but ill admit im not the best student that ever lived. Not ad hominem just trying to figure out who i was arguing with. But now I have to ask, why all this schooling and youre still in the military?

Started shadowing docs and decided I hated it. I joined the reserves while in college, got my degree and went active. I love my profession, simple as that. The pay isn't what I could earn on the outside, but there are few jobs outside of the military that are like mine.

[Gasser64]

Not exactly sure what the number system equates to. I only took two calc classes. Differential and Integral for my degree and multivariable to complete premed reqs. Barely got Bs in both, but I'm admittedly a terrible student in math. I rarely went to class. For physics I took mechanics and then electricity and got As. But I got my degree in human biology.

I'm not sure where you got the idea I'm a truck driver, care to show me the post? This is an interesting transition to ad hominem discussion about me.

Must have been wrong person. Oh well

I'm good at all the math but ill admit im not the best student that ever lived. Not ad hominem just trying to figure out who i was arguing with. But now I have to ask, why all this schooling and youre still in the military?