Wall

[SBFORDTECH]

I believe recently I read $15B a year is spent on illegal immigration.

There are approximately 3.7 million unlawful immigrant households in the U.S. These households impose a net fiscal burden of around $54.5 billion per year.

http://www.heritage.org/immigration/report/the-fiscal-cost-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-the-us-taxpayer

I've seen other claims of up to 103,000,000,000. Count those zeroes!!!!

[Gasser64]

They seem to want it there too. But they're willing to start here, because they know they have to start here. Got to take down the big dog first, then they'll focus on those smaller guys. They think that all those people can live together in a perfect utopia as well. Just ask 'em, its no problem.

[AnthonyS]

I for one, just want to know where the entire idea that the USA is the only country on Earth that shouldn't protect its own borders. Try border hopping in Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Turkey and see how that goes over. But globalists want the USA to allow any US hating person to just come on over? Fuck them. And $4.1B compared to the money wasted on illegal immigrants and lost tax revenue is a huge financial win for the USA. I believe recently I read $15B a year is spent on illegal immigration. Wall pays itself off immediately. Anyone not seeing the economic benefit is undereducated. Investors would kill for this rate of return.

[Gasser64]

A tariff is like a corporate income tax in that it is really borne by the end consumer and not the person/corp who the tax is levied against. His best bet is to tax the fuck out of remittances to countries south of our border or to seize Mexican government assets that are located in our country.

Win/win. The prices go up, well its cheaper to buy american now. Which he also seems to want. There's lots of stuff he could do. He has all the cards and they have none. He's got them over a barrel. Of course its mexico, so that's not surprising.

[TX_92_Notch]

But they will pay for it. When US money is staying stateside inside of going into illegal immigrants pocket and then across the border, Mexico pays for it. When there are less illegal immigrants being supported by tax dollars, Mexico pays for it. Basically, any money that stays in the US or isn't spent supporting illegal immigrants is a dollar that they're "paying" in my opinion. I'm all for the wall and secure borders with my dollars, especially if we're cutting money to arts and crafts and many other programs.

If someone wants to support many of the organizations that get tax dollars, then let them right a check. I have a ton of groups that I support including one in a foreign country. That's my choice and my check beyond my tax dollars. That's how all groups should be including NPR, PBS, etc.

Exactly. I just didn't have time to type all of that when I replied.

[svauto-erotic855]

He could simply collect it all in tariffs from them, with interest. He's got lots of options available.

A tariff is like a corporate income tax in that it is really borne by the end consumer and not the person/corp who the tax is levied against. His best bet is to tax the fuck out of remittances to countries south of our border or to seize Mexican government assets that are located in our country.

[Craizie]

I doubt Nay voted for Trump....

[Fastback]

Naynay, you said you voted for Trump. But, before assuming more, will you say whether or not you are for or against the wall?

[Gasser64]

Anyone that ever thought Trump literally meant that Mexico was going to actually write a check for the wall is an idiot.

I never understood where people were getting that. He said they'd pay for it, then clarified that basically they'd pay for it. And its trump, and he seems kind of fond on delivering. And mexico is an ant compared to us. I still don't doubt that in the end, one way or another, yeah they'll foot the bill. He could simply collect it all in tariffs from them, with interest. He's got lots of options available.

[Broncojohnny]

It is refreshing to see democrats worried about spending after eight years of their God running the national debt up to almost $20T.

Then again they are crying because Trump wants to cut federal funding to PBS and the National Endowment for the Arts. Who will make all those statues of Jesus out of dog shit that we all need every day?

This thing is like when the leftists all of a sudden get concerned about veterans. The cost thing is nothing but a convenient bullshit talking point to further their agenda. They don't give a fuck about fiscal policy, the national debt or any of that other stuff, all they care about is getting as many Mexicans here as they can so they can attempt to buy votes.

[juiceweezl]

Anyone that ever thought Trump literally meant that Mexico was going to actually write a check for the wall is an idiot.

But they will pay for it. When US money is staying stateside inside of going into illegal immigrants pocket and then across the border, Mexico pays for it. When there are less illegal immigrants being supported by tax dollars, Mexico pays for it. Basically, any money that stays in the US or isn't spent supporting illegal immigrants is a dollar that they're "paying" in my opinion. I'm all for the wall and secure borders with my dollars, especially if we're cutting money to arts and crafts and many other programs.

If someone wants to support many of the organizations that get tax dollars, then let them right a check. I have a ton of groups that I support including one in a foreign country. That's my choice and my check beyond my tax dollars. That's how all groups should be including NPR, PBS, etc.

[Craizie]

You day drinking?

[naynay]

i realize we are all anchor babies

[Craizie]

White people said it and that's automatically racist. Don't you watch CNN?

That's a big negative.

Naynay, you do know illegal immigrants are not a race, right?

[46Tbird]

So you're saying we spend 4.1B, once, to save 100B annually.

Okay, you convinced me.