Global warmed up: Study finds temperature data systematically fudged upward

[Forever_frost]

Paris accord was joke. The ultimate money redistribution. You have to wonder why the 2 biggest polluters (China and India) were void from paying anything nor having to clean up anything until 2030.

And listed as developing nations eligible to receive money from the fund which we'd have to borrow from China in order to give to China.

[GhostTX]

Exactly. 40 yrs ago man was going to cause an ice age. Only govt regulation could save us. Now man is going to cause a global meltdown and only govt regulation can save us.... trump was right to tell them to shove the Paris accord. It would only continue to hurt the us economy via over regulation.

Environmental trends on Earth have changed over hundreds of thousands, even millions of years. No one can say what it's going to be like in 10,000 years based on just over 100 years of data much of which is inaccurate or even fake.

Might as well be honest a lot of this is fake science.

Paris accord was joke. The ultimate money redistribution. You have to wonder why the 2 biggest polluters (China and India) were void from paying anything nor having to clean up anything until 2030.

[BLAKE]

I trust the religious right on this subject about as much as I trust that dildo Al Gore.

this whole thing is a money scam.

Occam's razor right there. Makes the most sense.

[AnthonyS]

Body temp data that established that normal body temp is 98.6 has been found to be flawed also. They found the original thermometer is a museum from that study and tested it recently and it was not accurate; considering that it was considered a lab grade instrument in its era I would consider all of the data concerning any temps from back then to be flawed.

SCIENCE!!!!! Now start recording temperatures today using wet / dry bulb in the shade and thermocouples and in one thousand years after enough data is gathered, then we can discuss the coming meltdown or ice age.

[svauto-erotic855]

Does anybody me actually think temperature measurements over 100 years ago are as accurate as today? 50 years? 3 even 25 years? Look how much autos have changed and aircraft in the last 100 years. The data itself without distortion is already highly suspect.

Body temp data that established that normal body temp is 98.6 has been found to be flawed also. They found the original thermometer is a museum from that study and tested it recently and it was not accurate; considering that it was considered a lab grade instrument in its era I would consider all of the data concerning any temps from back then to be flawed.

[AnthonyS]

Does anybody me actually think temperature measurements over 100 years ago are as accurate as today? 50 years? 3 even 25 years? Look how much autos have changed and aircraft in the last 100 years. The data itself without distortion is already highly suspect.

[46Tbird]

How are you supposed to get billions of dollars in funding if your graphs don't show dire scenarios and consequences?

If your graphs show that centuries of human activity have little or no measurable impact on the climate, then that's not useful for people hoping to make a buck off of alarmist proclamations. They'll just find another scientist with a bigger hockey stick for their data, thanks very much.

[Strychnine]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-climatechange-turkey-idUSKBN19T11R

Erdogan says U.S. stance stalls Turkish ratification of Paris climate deal

The U.S. decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the U.S. move jeopardizes compensation promised to developing countries, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world's leading economies broke with U.S. President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensation for some of the financial costs of compliance.

"So we said if this would happen, the agreement would pass through parliament. But otherwise it won't pass," Erdogan told a news conference, adding that parliament had not yet approved it.

"Therefore, after this step taken by the United States, our position steers a course towards not passing this from the parliament," he said.

So France promised Turkey some US money, Trump said, "Eat shit," and suddenly "climate" isn't the biggest driver... hmmmm...

[Strychnine]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-climatechange-turkey-idUSKBN19T11R

Erdogan says U.S. stance stalls Turkish ratification of Paris climate deal

The U.S. decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the U.S. move jeopardizes compensation promised to developing countries, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world's leading economies broke with U.S. President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensation for some of the financial costs of compliance.

"So we said if this would happen, the agreement would pass through parliament. But otherwise it won't pass," Erdogan told a news conference, adding that parliament had not yet approved it.

"Therefore, after this step taken by the United States, our position steers a course towards not passing this from the parliament," he said.

So France promised Turkey some US money, Trump said, "Eat shit," and suddenly "climate" isn't the biggest driver... hmmmm...

[AnthonyS]

do some research on volcanic eruptions. they dump more shit into the air than all of mankind. they have influenced the weather since the beginning of time. but al gore couldn't make money from them. this whole thing is a money scam.

Exactly. 40 yrs ago man was going to cause an ice age. Only govt regulation could save us. Now man is going to cause a global meltdown and only govt regulation can save us.... trump was right to tell them to shove the Paris accord. It would only continue to hurt the us economy via over regulation.

Environmental trends on Earth have changed over hundreds of thousands, even millions of years. No one can say what it's going to be like in 10,000 years based on just over 100 years of data much of which is inaccurate or even fake.

Might as well be honest a lot of this is fake science.

[bubbaearl]

do some research on volcanic eruptions. they dump more shit into the air than all of mankind. they have influenced the weather since the beginning of time. but al gore couldn't make money from them. this whole thing is a money scam.

[Trip McNeely]

But no, they want money. From us. That's where they've killed their argument.

Carbon Reparations

[Broncojohnny]

The problem is many these days do not support a "global warming". If they all did, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Its hard to tell if any of this really matters, because if a new ice age does eventually happen, there isn't going to be any telling if its just natural, or if it was "caused by man" somehow. If they can't settle the matter now, they're definitely not going to be able to settle it if that happens.

So at this point its pretty clear that its just being used to further an agenda. If their only concern was simply getting pollution way down, we also wouldn't be having this conversation. But no, they want money. From us. That's where they've killed their argument.

Even Gasser gets it.

[Gasser64]

Majority of scientists and facts did not support a "global cooling" and the scientist himself said so.

The problem is many these days do not support a "global warming". If they all did, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Its hard to tell if any of this really matters, because if a new ice age does eventually happen, there isn't going to be any telling if its just natural, or if it was "caused by man" somehow. If they can't settle the matter now, they're definitely not going to be able to settle it if that happens.

So at this point its pretty clear that its just being used to further an agenda. If their only concern was simply getting pollution way down, we also wouldn't be having this conversation. But no, they want money. From us. That's where they've killed their argument.

[Gargamel]

You could say... That this thread is really...... heating up.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!

It's an old meme sir, but it checks out.