Government Shutdown

[Denny]

correct, how ever the constitution and the framers of our government never intended to become an empire. in order to maintain and empire you have to have the strongest military and the very best society backing it, and that takes a lot of money. if you want to go back to a government that was based on the constitution, then you better be ready to give up the empire.

I've got nothing against pulling all of us back within our borders. Let's do it.

[Cannonball996]

Right, so show me, in our Constitution (which is our founding document and the only thing that matters) where the federal government can do anything with 'discretionary spending' that isn't counted in the 18 enumerated powers. I'll wait. Article and Section

correct, how ever the constitution and the framers of our government never intended to become an empire. in order to maintain and empire you have to have the strongest military and the very best society backing it, and that takes a lot of money. if you want to go back to a government that was based on the constitution, then you better be ready to give up the empire.

[Denny]

Damn I was hoping for a gubment shut down

Eh... we're screwed either way.

[78X]

Damn I was hoping for a gubment shut down

[Forever_frost]

Someone doesn't understand how budgets and discretionary spending works.

Right, so show me, in our Constitution (which is our founding document and the only thing that matters) where the federal government can do anything with 'discretionary spending' that isn't counted in the 18 enumerated powers. I'll wait. Article and Section

This...

Since when is someone's fucking herpes my problem? Why do I need to pay for the treatment, or a girl's birth control, etc. Defund that mother fucker.

I can think of several scenarios where someone elses herpes could become my problem, but I'm not going to spell it out for you...

and I'm on the lol bandwagon at 150%. Jeeesus.

[78X]

Pathetic and deeper down the rabbit hole we go

[SMEGMA STENCH]

Someone doesn't understand how budgets and discretionary spending works.

Someone doesn't understand what a constitution is.

I have to wonder where democrats think the money is going to keep coming from. They fought tooth and nail and had to be threatened with shutdown, in order to get them to cut spending. So where, in their little minds, is all this money that is needed, going to come from? Or do they just not believe that our money troubles even exist?

[big_tiger]

So, after reading it, they ended up cutting $39B. Out of a $1.6T deficit?!?! That's just 1/40th of what they need to cut to get the shit balanced! They did no one any favors. Less than 3%. I can fart out a 3% cut.

Ya... I'm not selling my silver anytime soon. See y'all in June when they announce QE3.

There might be a chance that they are counting the previous cut in the past extensions to the $38B.

[mcmustang]

So, after reading it, they ended up cutting $39B. Out of a $1.6T deficit?!?!.

It's called a rounding error.

[Vertnut]

i just heard the military is getting a 150% pay cut!

lmfao!

[Denny]

So, after reading it, they ended up cutting $39B. Out of a $1.6T deficit?!?! That's just 1/40th of what they need to cut to get the shit balanced! They did no one any favors. Less than 3%. I can fart out a 3% cut.

Ya... I'm not selling my silver anytime soon. See y'all in June when they announce QE3.

[Durantula]

Actually, it has everything to do with a constitutional mandate to fund it. If there isn't one expressly enumerated, then it cannot exist.

Someone doesn't understand how budgets and discretionary spending works.

[Forever_frost]

Because the myth that Planned Parenthood uses federal tax dollars to fund abortion has absolutely nothing to do with a constitutional mandate to fund the program? If Republicans were trying to defund it on the premise that it's unnecessary, that argument might be relevant. But they aren't, and it's not.

Actually, it has everything to do with a constitutional mandate to fund it. If there isn't one expressly enumerated, then it cannot exist.

[Forever_frost]

How is that even relevant?

Because our federal government is limited on things it can do based on the Constitution