The roofing contractors have made it to my neighborhood.

[mikec]

Hurry up and buy some more material from us asshole!

MikeC who do you get your material from?

I'll pm that. Are you in supply?

[Adam]

Now don't get me wrong. I sometimes go years without having to file a claim with a manufacturer. It really just depends. Sometimes a bad batch is made, shit happens. That's why the manufacturers have nice insurance policies to take care of things like that.

Hurry up and buy some more material from us asshole!

MikeC who do you get your material from?

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Now don't get me wrong. I sometimes go years without having to file a claim with a manufacturer. It really just depends. Sometimes a bad batch is made, shit happens. That's why the manufacturers have nice insurance policies to take care of things like that.

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I've been doing this 15 years full time if you include part time 18 years. The company has been in business 26 years

[sspstang]

How long have you been in roofing?

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Maybe so, but are they really going to call the manufacture? No they are gonna call the roofer first.

They call us but we call the manufacturer then a packet goes to the homeowner that they fill out. We take a couple sample shingles to send in and take pictures, thats it. Its not a hard deal, then the manufacturer drags their feet before paying. Its the same story time after time. GAF pays their claims better than any of them, I have never had to wait. I've been doing this a long time and the most expensive to the cheapest shingle fail, they all do.

[sspstang]

The most expensive shingles on the market fail from time to time. Hell I'm working a claim right now with a failed OC class IV shingle that failed after 6 years, but there is nothing that falls back on the roofing company. The manufacturer will do its thing I will get them a sample then they will end up paying for it. I've had claims with every manufacturer that is selling shingles in Dallas, I don't believe there is one I haven't dealt with. Its actually not that rare. Hell in the 90's every roofer was putting on Hardi Slate and every roof failed, every one. Class action lawyers got involved to go after the manufacturer but not one roofer was sued because of it. That's because we are not liable for the material. You don't go to Sears five years later to bitch about your dishwasher that broke you call the manufacturer.

Maybe so, but are they really going to call the manufacture? No they are gonna call the roofer first.

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But who told the home owner it was a good product? The roofer. Just saying, they aren't going to call the manufacture, they are going to call the roofer or builder first.

The most expensive shingles on the market fail from time to time. Hell I'm working a claim right now with a failed OC class IV shingle that failed after 6 years, but there is nothing that falls back on the roofing company. The manufacturer will do its thing I will get them a sample then they will end up paying for it. I've had claims with every manufacturer that is selling shingles in Dallas, I don't believe there is one I haven't dealt with. Its actually not that rare. Hell in the 90's every roofer was putting on Hardi Slate and every roof failed, every one. Class action lawyers got involved to go after the manufacturer but not one roofer was sued because of it. That's because we are not liable for the material. You don't go to Sears five years later to bitch about your dishwasher that broke you call the manufacturer.

[sspstang]

Actually it is different than a leak. No roofing company warranties the material. That is why you get a shingle warranty from the manufacturer. If the shingle fails they pay for the material and labor to be redone. So no there is no fall back on a roofing company for a failed material. All manufacturers make products that fail from time to time.

But who told the home owner it was a good product? The roofer. Just saying, they aren't going to call the manufacture, they are going to call the roofer or builder first.

[blownaltered]

OC seems pretty good, and so does tamko. I dunno, if I were a roofing contractor, if I could swing them both I would. You know if the fall apart in lets say 5 years, who are they gonna call? You. Not the shingle company. Its no different then a leak.

Actually it is different than a leak. No roofing company warranties the material. That is why you get a shingle warranty from the manufacturer. If the shingle fails they pay for the material and labor to be redone. So no there is no fall back on a roofing company for a failed material. All manufacturers make products that fail from time to time.

[sspstang]

Oh, I'm with you, and definitely don't want that either. Thanks for pointing it out, and I'll definitely be looking further into it.

OC seems pretty good, and so does tamko. I dunno, if I were a roofing contractor, if I could swing them both I would. You know if the fall apart in lets say 5 years, who are they gonna call? You. Not the shingle company. Its no different then a leak.

[mikec]

http://www.roofery.com/shingles/reviews/certainteed/

Very unsatisfied beats the others. I just don't want to see you, put something on a persons house, and regret it a few years later, when they start falling apart. That is all I was saying.

Oh, I'm with you, and definitely don't want that either. Thanks for pointing it out, and I'll definitely be looking further into it.

[sspstang]

Article is from 2007?

http://www.roofery.com/shingles/reviews/certainteed/

Very unsatisfied beats the others. I just don't want to see you, put something on a persons house, and regret it a few years later, when they start falling apart. That is all I was saying.

[mikec]

Mike have you seen this? You might rethink certainteed.. Just saying OC and GAF do not have any real complaints. You might rethink and go with tamko. If you want to see them in person I can send you pics of my rent house.
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...-shingles.html

Article is from 2007?

[mikec]

Is that the same as a 'high profile ridge'?

Yep

If anyone is looking to get their roof done, mike and his guys knocked mine out on Monday and did a great job. He answered all my dumb questions and while we were originally wanting to wait a few months, his price was too good to pass up.

Thanks again Paul. Was glad to help out. Please let friends and family know about us!

Very typical after a big storm like that, with so much damage. There are only so many roofing crews to go around.

A neighbor of mine has had a sign in his yard since the storm last spring, and they are just now putting on his new roof. Granted, that's beyond normal circumstances (rent house), but it's not uncommon at all to have to wait 2 months after a bad storm like that.

I need one day to get materials ordered and can generally have a crew there the next day. You might spread the word...