My goal would be one of those live-on-site consultants to an oil company. Known to some as the "company man". I'm halfway through, I stopped to make some money and get out of debt because it was crushing me. By the time I'm out of debt, I estimate that it will be fall of this year and I will start school again. 
My father inlaw hired two PE's straight out of college somewhat recently. As consultants. Its my hope that in the future, that can be me. The well known oilfield good ol boy network, I guess. Although I will say that Conoco/Phillips hired him with little previous experience in that particular job, so who can say if the good ol boy is really necessary.
What do you two do specifically? It sounds to me like you're more on the design side of things.
But I like the industrial atmosphere. I like the lonely places that you find yourself when you're out on location. I like the sense of urgency when there is a problem or a big problem. I like working with all of those machines and trying to find a way to make them work better. Or fixing them. I feel like it would be a job I'd enjoy.
					
					
					
				
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 Directed to me or Gasser?Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostThis must be the confusion. A lot of us love what we do. When I get off work I typically do the same stuff at home just not for the company. I love designing and engineering products, and hope to have my own company a few times over before retirement.
 
 I know strych loves this stuff, especially since he mentioned he wants to stay even after the current crash.
 
 What is it that you do or will be doing?
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 This must be the confusion. A lot of us love what we do. When I get off work I typically do the same stuff at home just not for the company. I love designing and engineering products, and hope to have my own company a few times over before retirement.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostProbably right. Its just what I've observed. But maybe I've been observing burnt out people.
 
 Do you love what you're going to be doing? Me, I merely like it.
 
 I know strych loves this stuff, especially since he mentioned he wants to stay even after the current crash.
 
 What is it that you do or will be doing?
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 This must be the confusion. A lot of us love what we do. When I get off work I typically do the same stuff at home just not for the company. I love designing and engineering products, and hope to have my own company a few times over before retirement.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostProbably right. Its just what I've observed. But maybe I've been observing burnt out people.
 
 Do you love what you're going to be doing? Me, I merely like it.
 
 I know strych loves this stuff, especially since he mentioned he wants to stay even after the current crash.
 
 What is it that you do or will be doing?
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 Matty has been in full throttle mode since he graduated highschool. If he doesn't have true passion in what he's doing, true passion doesn't exhist.
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 Probably right. Its just what I've observed. But maybe I've been observing burnt out people.
 
 Do you love what you're going to be doing? Me, I merely like it.
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 I would say you are wrong here, and that is skewing your perception.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostHow exactly do they do that? When it comes to the creme of the crop, my estimation is that most people don't just absolutely love their field and want to spend all their time doing it. And want to be workaholics and skip holidays to do it. Most people are indeed just looking for a job and a paycheck, albeit a better job and a better paycheck. So if they're looking at 20 or 30 applicants, and 3 of them are just shining examples of people who they'd call ideal, what about all the rest? What about the others that they need to fill that space? Should they turn them away just because they "know what they're looking for"? Why bother with this when they must know that these people just want an education so they can join the workforce at a certain level.
 
 Maybe I'm just projecting myself onto these people, and they all love what they're going to do with the firey passion of a thousand suns. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate it. In fact I rather enjoy it. But I think like most people, if given a choice to go to work and get paid, or not go to work and STILL get paid, I'd probably sit home and play video games.
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 How exactly do they do that? When it comes to the creme of the crop, my estimation is that most people don't just absolutely love their field and want to spend all their time doing it. And want to be workaholics and skip holidays to do it. Most people are indeed just looking for a job and a paycheck, albeit a better job and a better paycheck. So if they're looking at 20 or 30 applicants, and 3 of them are just shining examples of people who they'd call ideal, what about all the rest? What about the others that they need to fill that space? Should they turn them away just because they "know what they're looking for"? Why bother with this when they must know that these people just want an education so they can join the workforce at a certain level.Originally posted by Denny View PostWhen you have people lining up, fully funded, the only smart thing to do is take the cream of the crop. The review board came up with a way to quickly sift through the masses.
 
 They can tell if it's someone they want or not after 200 words. They could ask about their favorite color or describe the weather. These applicants know they have 200 words to shine above the others. I bet some really good answers might not even necessarily answer the question.
 
 Maybe I'm just projecting myself onto these people, and they all love what they're going to do with the firey passion of a thousand suns. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate it. In fact I rather enjoy it. But I think like most people, if given a choice to go to work and get paid, or not go to work and STILL get paid, I'd probably sit home and play video games. Or insert what you'd rather be doing besides work here.
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 I'm not butt hurt... I'm telling you why its that way. They know you want more money but if you think that the degree alone will do that...you're wrong.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostObviously. I know what they want. Doesn't change the fact that its still dumb. Why ask a question you already know the answer to? Do you want my money or not? You think I'm here to fail and waste money, or to try my damnedest to get a degree and succeed? In short, it seems pointless. Again, this has no bearing on what I'll do personally. I'll jump through whatever hoops they want since I don't really have a choice. Reminds me of those "recommended" classes some of them make you take, so they can get more money.
 
 Its just a simple opinion man. And you know what they say about those. No reason for you guys to get all butthurt over it and read way too much into it.
 
 Imagine going to a bank to ask for a business loan without a business plan...
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 When you have people lining up, fully funded, the only smart thing to do is take the cream of the crop. The review board came up with a way to quickly sift through the masses.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostObviously. I know what they want. Doesn't change the fact that its still dumb. Why ask a question you already know the answer to? Do you want my money or not? You think I'm here to fail and waste money, or to try my damnedest to get a degree and succeed? In short, it seems pointless. Again, this has no bearing on what I'll do personally. I'll jump through whatever hoops they want since I don't really have a choice. Reminds me of those "recommended" classes some of them make you take, so they can get more money.
 
 Its just a simple opinion man. And you know what they say about those. No reason for you guys to get all butthurt over it and read way too much into it.
 
 They can tell if it's someone they want or not after 200 words. They could ask about their favorite color or describe the weather. These applicants know they have 200 words to shine above the others. I bet some really good answers might not even necessarily answer the question.
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 Obviously. I know what they want. Doesn't change the fact that its still dumb. Why ask a question you already know the answer to? Do you want my money or not? You think I'm here to fail and waste money, or to try my damnedest to get a degree and succeed? In short, it seems pointless. Again, this has no bearing on what I'll do personally. I'll jump through whatever hoops they want since I don't really have a choice. Reminds me of those "recommended" classes some of them make you take, so they can get more money.Originally posted by Ruffdaddy View PostNo...you just haven't learned how this stuff works. They already knew all the answers you said. Nobody goes to college to make less, but they want to know your plan. If you don't have a plan they don't want you hurting their reputation.
 
 Prestigious programs dont want people like you getting their degree until you grow up and realize how this world works.
 
 Its just a simple opinion man. And you know what they say about those. No reason for you guys to get all butthurt over it and read way too much into it.
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 Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostWhat exactly is it that they want to hear? Obvious answers?
 
 1. I want more money 2. This school is reputable and close to me or offers online courses for ease of use. 3. Cause I need to get this shit done before too much time goes by, so I don't waste my time and so I can more quickly get more money.
 
 Lets be real here, those are the real answers.
 Dude... Really?
 
   
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 No...you just haven't learned how this stuff works. They already knew all the answers you said. Nobody goes to college to make less, but they want to know your plan. If you don't have a plan they don't want you hurting their reputation.Originally posted by Gasser64 View PostI know. I just thought the questions were dumb.
 
 Prestigious programs dont want people like you getting their degree until you grow up and realize how this world works.
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