Ronny was the man...

More like, someone with a large spoon to stir the pot, actually.



David

I'm actually quite serious. It bothers me when people can't look at both sides of a situation or person and admit that nearly anything quantifiable on this planet has both pros and cons. It's a childish fist pounding way to avoid having to think.

[Vertnut]

Way to prove that you are an idiot.

Also, like my pops says, "until you sign the front of a paycheck, you will have no idea how business, the economy, or politics truly work."

I don't have it all figured out and will be the first to admit that, but you sure seem to have a great hold on things.

Are you really that stupid? Do you NOT know what I do for a living? Go ask your dad for some more wisdom. He seems to do really well, seeing all the toys he's bought you. Ask him about the Carter/Reagan era.

Never mentioned "un-American". It's like telling a Viet Nam vet (or any vet that saw action, for that matter) what the war was like in a nutshell. If you weren't paying for a 15% mortgage, or a 20% car note, don't tell me what you "read in a book". Fuck all that. I'm tired of 20-somethings trying to educate me on life, while daddy buys their education and toys. Pay a fucking bill or three before telling me what an evil POTUS Reagan was.



Rant off.

By the Baylor, you don't think there are liberal high-ranking officials out here that "teach"? Those that can't "do", teach.

edit- Your left-wing poster just crushed any credibility you might have had. Nice.

Your argument makes no sense. Reagan was better than Carter, so that makes him flawless? My dad served two tours in the Vietnam War. Did you? Did you graduate college? Just trying to figure out your apparent aversion to it, since I'm pretty sure you've talked about your daughter going to McCombs.

Most of your posts read like you're upset at a person younger than you having an opinion, which is asinine. I didn't see anyone trying to educate you, just pointing out obvious flaws that some people ignore with their star lit eyes. It isn't like you knew Reagan personally, so why the effort to put him on a pedestal? People and public figure worship, geesh...

[Moose242]

Keep reading those books. It's getting you quite far!

Uh, ok?

[Vertnut]

Way to prove that you are an idiot.

Keep reading those books. It's getting you quite far!

[cobrajet69]

You are one level headed dude,.....

More like, someone with a large spoon to stir the pot, actually.



David

[Moose242]

Sure it can...by libs, and college kids that don't know better.

Way to prove that you are an idiot.

Also, like my pops says, "until you sign the front of a paycheck, you will have no idea how business, the economy, or politics truly work."

I don't have it all figured out and will be the first to admit that, but you sure seem to have a great hold on things.

[Vertnut]

Liberal professor? At Baylor? I'll let you know when I find one.


Also, how did you learn about it? Were you in Iraq? Were you in the presidential cabinet? Naw, you watched the news and read the paper. Your point about taking someone else's word as truth is invalid, as History is nothing more than a sequence of events recorded by an observer for all to learn from. Just because this event happened relatively recently does not mean that it cannot be speculated on and interpreted by different ways by different people.

Sure it can...by libs, and college kids that don't know better.

[Vertnut]

I don't get the blind allegiance to former leaders. They all have their good points and their bad points. Reagan did some good stuff. He also did some stuff that probably did some serious damage to us as a country. I liked Reagan, even if I was only 12 when he left office. It's funny to watch some of you guys scramble to discredit someone elses opinion just because they weren't alive while you were. I'm sure you were all pouring over every paper and document you could find while he was in office, examining every step he made. Give me a break. Oh wait, this is the new post 9/11 America, where if you disagree or say someone had flaws you're unamerican and should "get out." I almost forgot.

Never mentioned "un-American". It's like telling a Viet Nam vet (or any vet that saw action, for that matter) what the war was like in a nutshell. If you weren't paying for a 15% mortgage, or a 20% car note, don't tell me what you "read in a book". Fuck all that. I'm tired of 20-somethings trying to educate me on life, while daddy buys their education and toys. Pay a fucking bill or three before telling me what an evil POTUS Reagan was.



Rant off.

By the Baylor, you don't think there are liberal high-ranking officials out here that "teach"? Those that can't "do", teach.

edit- Your left-wing poster just crushed any credibility you might have had. Nice.

[Moose242]

I don't get the blind allegiance to former leaders. They all have their good points and their bad points. Reagan did some good stuff. He also did some stuff that probably did some serious damage to us as a country. I liked Reagan, even if I was only 12 when he left office. It's funny to watch some of you guys scramble to discredit someone elses opinion just because they weren't alive while you were. I'm sure you were all pouring over every paper and document you could find while he was in office, examining every step he made. Give me a break. Oh wait, this is the new post 9/11 America, where if you disagree or say someone had flaws you're unamerican and should "get out." I almost forgot.

You are one level headed dude, and I feel that we see eye to eye on most subjects.

[Moose242]

An education doesn't make you intelligent, it just means you are educated.



Hey look, you have an opinion, that appears to have been installed into you by liberal instructors.



Thanks for confirming what I said in my post, you have read about (and ~wrote~ about) history from the eyes of someone else. You have admitted that you take the word of someone else as the truth for something you did not experience yourself.


Stevo

Liberal professor? At Baylor? I'll let you know when I find one.


Also, how did you learn about it? Were you in Iraq? Were you in the presidential cabinet? Naw, you watched the news and read the paper. Your point about taking someone else's word as truth is invalid, as History is nothing more than a sequence of events recorded by an observer for all to learn from. Just because this event happened relatively recently does not mean that it cannot be speculated on and interpreted by different ways by different people.

I don't get the blind allegiance to former leaders. They all have their good points and their bad points. Reagan did some good stuff. He also did some stuff that probably did some serious damage to us as a country. I liked Reagan, even if I was only 12 when he left office. It's funny to watch some of you guys scramble to discredit someone elses opinion just because they weren't alive while you were. I'm sure you were all pouring over every paper and document you could find while he was in office, examining every step he made. Give me a break. Oh wait, this is the new post 9/11 America, where if you disagree or say someone had flaws you're unamerican and should "get out." I almost forgot.

[stevo]

I don't have shit on you? Well, despite the fact that I am an educated member of the gentry and you are.... some guy.

An education doesn't make you intelligent, it just means you are educated.

I realize that the Carter administration's inaction in Iran led to the cluster fuck, and I also realize that criticizing Reagan in any capacity is like kicking a beehive when you are surrounded by a group of neocons. Reagan was a decent president, but far from the best.

Hey look, you have an opinion, that appears to have been installed into you by liberal instructors.

I have read about it, wrote about it, and been taught about it by the former head of the United States Army Command and General Staff College's History department. I think he knew a thing or two about what he was talking about.

Thanks for confirming what I said in my post, you have read about (and ~wrote~ about) history from the eyes of someone else. You have admitted that you take the word of someone else as the truth for something you did not experience yourself.


Stevo

[Moose242]

Disclaimer: I do not agree that all of the above listed things were necessarily bad, but it should ruffle some feathers.

[Moose242]

Reagan just gave incredible speeches, he was very funny, had great presence, and all of the foreign leaders respected him. More importantly our enemies didn't dare fuck with him. Iran contra was his only real scandal. To chastise his presidency for that one blunder would be to absolve all the achievements he and his policies created. The Berlin Wall, fall of the soviet union, reaganomics, tax reform and revitalizing the GOP/Conservative movement. And not only that, the entire time he was correcting the ridiculous failures of Mr. Carter. Citing the Iran-Contra conflict is valid, but almost verges on hipster against the grain attention whoring in the large scheme of things.