Bayview shootout aftermath *NSFW*

[Spector93]

You're such a tool dude. Always raging over anyone you don't agree with in typical fashion. I'm arguing with their mentality. Do you think the mob of 250+ people in that video all know exactly what happened? No, of course they don't. What I know is they are all blindly anti-police, it's completely obvious. Maybe one or two might have seen something, but that isn't the issue here. The issue is you have 250+ people screaming "fuck the police" when 99% of them have no fucking idea what happened. That kind of mentality is the basis for my comment.

100% agree with

[4pnt6]

Bunch of fucking idiots!

[Rreemo]

That Mo layed there and literally drowned in his own blood. See how he was coughing and gagging with all that blood coming out of his mouth and pulling his head up trying to gasp those last few breaths as his lungs filled right up with blood....pretty brutal way to die, but if he did all the shit they said to those other people then good job....even if he didn't shoot at the cops.

[bcoop]

You conviently overlooked the word "usually" right before where you bolded too.

Does "anyone" not negate the usually? It's almost like a double negative.



I did overlook it, I suppose it was convenient. lol. The "anyone" is what caught my attention, admittedly

[Steve]

Ok, but that's not what you said.

You conviently overlooked the word "usually" right before where you bolded too.

[bcoop]

Neither may have any convictions of anything, but both have certainly had interaction with officers. Obviously my comment is a generalization, but I think that it still holds true more often than not.

Ok, but that's not what you said.

It's my belief that anyone who has a distrust or an attitude against law enforcement usually also have a prior criminal history of some sort as well. I bet if you look into most of the backgrounds of the "FTP! crew" you will find people who have had negative interaction with police they brought upon themselves breaking the law.

[Steve]

Your buddy Adam has no criminal history that I know of. Neither does Al. I do, and it's no secret, but it's also no secret that I've accepted full responsiblity for my actions, and I got what I deserved. You also have to take in to account, that it was 11 years ago, with no trouble since. I can't comment on anyone else, as I don't know them.

Neither may have any convictions of anything, but both have certainly had interaction with officers. Obviously my comment is a generalization, but I think that it still holds true more often than not.

[bcoop]

It's my belief that anyone who has a distrust or an attitude against law enforcement usually also have a prior criminal history of some sort as well.

Your buddy Adam has no criminal history that I know of. Neither does Al. I do, and it's no secret, but it's also no secret that I've accepted full responsiblity for my actions, and I got what I deserved. You also have to take in to account, that it was 11 years ago, with no trouble since. I can't comment on anyone else, as I don't know them.

[Steve]

It's my belief that anyone who has a distrust or an attitude against law enforcement usually also have a prior criminal history of some sort as well. I bet if you look into most of the backgrounds of the "FTP! crew" you will find people who have had negative interaction with police they brought upon themselves breaking the law.

[bcoop]

I see a distrust in police, but what about the whole world of the prosecution side, the DA's office. The system is set up where the police investigate and arrest, the Grand Jury has to indict, and the DA has to successfully prosecute. The odds are in the favor of the defendant.

I don't disagree with that. Casey Anthony is a prime example. And some times, it makes me fucking sick. But at the same time, while our system is far from perfect, it's the best Judicial system in the world (that I'm aware of). That's part of what separates us from the savages in say, Iraq.

Favor of the defendant or not, once the police arrest you, it's on you to prove your innocence, not the other way around, which is the way it's supposed to be. And again, the defendant is out thousands and thousands of dollars, that they will never recover, even if they are innocent. Where the fuck is the justice in that?

[03trubluGT]

We did, and even bought matching shirts! They said "FTP, literally!"

I want one!!!

[03trubluGT]

Of course. But let's say you're wrongfully arrested over something. Should you really have to pay thousands and thousands out of pocket to prove your innocence, just because the police have the authority to make you do so? I thought this was America, where you are innocent until proven guilty. Silly me. What was I thinking?

I see a distrust in police, but what about the whole world of the prosecution side, the DA's office. The system is set up where the police investigate and arrest, the Grand Jury has to indict, and the DA has to successfully prosecute. The odds are in the favor of the defendant.

[bcoop]

Did you guys hold hands????

We did, and even bought matching shirts! They said "FTP, literally!"

[ThreeFingerPete]

So when a cop runs down a young youth from the projects and then asks "why did you run" it is because of mistrust that prompted the "because you are police" response.

These shitheads are groomed at an early age to run from authority.

If you distrust your treatment by the PD you don't show it by resisting. But then again I was raised to respect authority figures (teachers, principals, po-po).

I don't trust the police. I've seen far too many instances to leave my fate up to whichever gumshoe happens to be nearby. I have run under circumstances that it would have been reasonable to stop, however I did not want to let that officers judgement decide whether or not I was going to be dealt with fairly or not.


Generally, I have found that most of the cooler cops are the ones in Matt and Jimmy's position. They've been around long enough to gain some perspective and tend to treat people far more fairly than many others.

[03trubluGT]

You were pretty fuckin cool in my book. Even bought me a drink to celebrate my divorce.

Did you guys hold hands????