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  • Cooter
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    yeeeup

    this is the reason diesel tuning is dime a dozen... there are eight million rednecks out there willing to tune their trucks

    one outfit spent almost 4yrs developing their 2013+ dodge tuner. part of that was waiting for somebody to finally release a unit that would unlock the PCM without having to actually physically modify it and reverse engineer it for use in their tuner LOL

    that's a hell of an investment in time/R&D/etc.

    And the complete touch screen/monitor/tuning unit sells for under $1500. But they probably sold a couple thousand units in the first week and will continue to pump them out for years.

    Whereas somebody who develops a tune for a car as rare as your Mercedes might sell a hundred calibrations for it in their lifetime.


    Originally posted by LaserSVT View Post
    I know that tune cost sounds ridiculous and it is but think about it. Its time consuming and a PITA to crack the code in any modern ECU. Tuning chips used to be $100 and now they are $450+ for a Mustang. Thats because of all the endless hours it took not only to find the code but to write and rw-write it again and again to make sure it wont hurt the rest of the car.
    Now they spent all that money to R&D it and it has to be profitable. Well Mustang uses the same motor/software for a decade and there are millions out there so you have a good market to sell to.
    Take a special car like yours. There are not many out there. The computer is far far more complex. Far fewer percentage is willing to mod theirs due to cost of breaking Merc parts. In return you have a "chip" thats 10x more.
    They have more lines of code to write just for the cars various stability systems than there is for every single engine code they have to write in a Camaro or Mustang.
    On top of that its a 56hp gain. No Mustang or Camaro chip gives you half that gain.


    Now 12+K to add another 37hp is nuts so I would forget the blower upgrade.

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  • CexMashean
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    Should be 200lb with enough cream pies.

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  • davbrucas
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    Originally posted by DON SVO View Post
    A real pimp would do a 200 wet fogger.

    Karen is hot and may be wet but she certainly isnt 200lbs...

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  • lincolnboy
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    I still have the V...my very first brand new car which I bough at age 40.

    I am looking at the HRE P43SC's in satin charcoal for the MB.

    Saw a red V at the euless QT. Dam thing sound mean ass hell. All ringtones should be a muscle car sound.

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  • snacksnack
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    Yeah, it's a stiff ride, but no where near as harsh as my old 98GT with Sportlines!


    Its not stiff your just getting older, don't worry it happens to must of us.


    Congrats on the new ride.

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  • LaserSVT
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    I finally drove it today. Very tight suspension and handles great. Needs about 100 more hp to the ground...it is quick but not fast like I like. I drove my son to the airport in Nola and it comfortably cruises at 100mph...felt like I was only going 75 though. I'm gonna get a few tickets in this thing. I can see it now.
    The fucking mods for these cars are higher than giraffe pussy though. $12k for a supercharger system. I plan on removing the resonators and 2nd cats and eventually a "rape"...errr..."tune." Crack smokers want $2500 for a tune!
    I really like those HRE wheels...
    I know that tune cost sounds ridiculous and it is but think about it. Its time consuming and a PITA to crack the code in any modern ECU. Tuning chips used to be $100 and now they are $450+ for a Mustang. Thats because of all the endless hours it took not only to find the code but to write and rw-write it again and again to make sure it wont hurt the rest of the car.
    Now they spent all that money to R&D it and it has to be profitable. Well Mustang uses the same motor/software for a decade and there are millions out there so you have a good market to sell to.
    Take a special car like yours. There are not many out there. The computer is far far more complex. Far fewer percentage is willing to mod theirs due to cost of breaking Merc parts. In return you have a "chip" thats 10x more.
    They have more lines of code to write just for the cars various stability systems than there is for every single engine code they have to write in a Camaro or Mustang.
    On top of that its a 56hp gain. No Mustang or Camaro chip gives you half that gain.


    Now 12+K to add another 37hp is nuts so I would forget the blower upgrade.

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  • DON SVO
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    Originally posted by davbrucas View Post
    Yeah, it's a stiff ride, but no where near as harsh as my old 98GT with Sportlines!

    I ordered my first mod. Wheel spacers and extended bolts. Lol. The wheels need to be moved out a tad in these. Next mod is Weistec SC.
    A real pimp would do a 200 wet fogger.

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  • davbrucas
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    Yeah, it's a stiff ride, but no where near as harsh as my old 98GT with Sportlines!

    I ordered my first mod. Wheel spacers and extended bolts. Lol. The wheels need to be moved out a tad in these. Next mod is Weistec SC.

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  • orphan Shelby
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    Sweet ride. Felt like I got several kidney shots after driving one that was wrecked. Would love to to run around a road course for sure

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  • davbrucas
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    I still have the V...my very first brand new car which I bough at age 40.

    I am looking at the HRE P43SC's in satin charcoal for the MB.

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  • Silverback
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    Originally posted by Sean88gt View Post
    Must...push...through...school...

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  • Sean88gt
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    Must...push...through...school...

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  • red89notch
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    Please don't go to anyone besides Wiestec or Renntech for the tune. You will most likely end up regretting it. Yes there is an MB tax on the goodies but these cars are very tempermental about not being stock. Those cars the the stiffest riding Mercedes I have ever driven. They are just plain harsh to me. None of the other Black Series cars are that rough.

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  • 71chevellejohn
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    I'm sure if I look around, I might be able to scrounge up an old vortech to throw on there. We can just poke bigger holes in the installed injectors to increase fuel delivery. Should be good for the gittin' after that!(and way less than $12k)

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  • davbrucas
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    Originally posted by Broncojohnny View Post
    It's the Mercedes tax.
    Yup...stupid. Oh well, I wont be modding the hell out of this thing anyway. Probably just air filters, tune, rear bushings and exhaust. It will probably trap 115+ in 1/4mi as it sits...but it's not made for straight line acceleration.

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