started my HCG injections today

[GeorgeG.]

2nd 5000ui injection today

no improvements or side effects thus far

just curious...what kind of improvements are you expecting tos see or feel? Is this like a night and day difference in energy or sexual cravings or what?

[davbrucas]

When you start having to shop at Victoria Secret for your bras let us know...

[CWO]

2nd 5000ui injection today

no improvements or side effects thus far

[CWO]

In the ER I rarely have time to sit and fully explain a patient's condition or illness to them as there are usually 20 people waiting for that room, but I try to answer all of their questions as best as I can. Sometimes I'm better at it than others.
But thanks. Endocrinology/male hormone replacement is a passion of mine and I try to stay on top of all the latest studies and information.

I certainly appreciate you input. Don't think for a second that it's falling on deaf ears. I'll be discussing everything you've said with my doc.

[davbrucas]

In the ER I rarely have time to sit and fully explain a patient's condition or illness to them as there are usually 20 people waiting for that room, but I try to answer all of their questions as best as I can. Sometimes I'm better at it than others.
But thanks. Endocrinology/male hormone replacement is a passion of mine and I try to stay on top of all the latest studies and information.

[stangin4lyfe]

Anastrazole (arimidex) isnt a good drug for men. It is a VERY potent sulfatase inhibitor, which inhibits estrone. It is a moderately strong aromatase inhibitor (weak as compared to aromasin, AIFM or letrozole). This is fine for women with breast cancer who produce percentage wise very high levels of estrone (the weak estrogen), which can be converted to estradiol (the strong estrogen) via aromatase.
And, being a competitive inhibitor, when you stop taking it there will be a rebound effect with an increase in aromatase upregulation. So, if I were you I would be on HCG 1000iu eod for 3wks along with 50mg clomid daily and a small dose of aromasin. This will have your HPTA in high gear and your testicles back to normal volume.
But, take your doctor's advice and see how it goes.

I love how you actually take the time to explain why you come to the conclusion/recommendation that you give.
I sure wish ANY doctor that I go to took the time to do that.
To me, helping the patient understand their body is one of the most important aspects to medical science.
Not just, take two and call me in the morning, lol!

[davbrucas]

Anastrazole (arimidex) isnt a good drug for men. It is a VERY potent sulfatase inhibitor, which inhibits estrone. It is a moderately strong aromatase inhibitor (weak as compared to aromasin, AIFM or letrozole). This is fine for women with breast cancer who produce percentage wise very high levels of estrone (the weak estrogen), which can be converted to estradiol (the strong estrogen) via aromatase.
And, being a competitive inhibitor, when you stop taking it there will be a rebound effect with an increase in aromatase upregulation. So, if I were you I would be on HCG 1000iu eod for 3wks along with 50mg clomid daily and a small dose of aromasin. This will have your HPTA in high gear and your testicles back to normal volume.
But, take your doctor's advice and see how it goes.

[CWO]

so whats your bench up to now?

god bless.

Eleventy.... or so

[GeorgeG.]

I need to hook up with your dr! I need me some test....

[ELVIS]

so whats your bench up to now?

god bless.

[CWO]

Just got off the phone with my doc and asked him about the Arimidex (Anastrozole) and he said he'd like to stay off it for now. Baby steps basically. I'm going in to get tested in 3 weeks and he said we'd re-evaluate then.

[CWO]

HCG is very estrogenic. You better have some nolvadex available for when you start getting gyno symptoms. If you were on test injections for any length of time, your HPTA is likely shut down pretty good. Did your doc do some blood work to check your LH/FSH, estradiol, etc? I would start taking clomid 50mg daily for 4wks along with the HCG.

Yessir. I have the results around here somewhere. Current doc is a Urologist/Vasectomy Reversal/Fertility specialist. He prescribed Anastrozole a while back too, but at a much lower dose if I recall. All of these drugs are starting to run together and I'm losing track of what I was on and when. Argh.

LH=2.0
TSH=1.090 (can't see FSH on there)
Estradiol=14.6
Testosterone, Serum=201


previous Endocrinologist doc had me on 5mg trial period of Clomid every other day (I think, it's been a while) but that didn't do much several months ago. Not sure what that was all about to be honest. Seems like I remember my boys being bigger, but I didn't feel any better and I gained a little weight from it.



I can email my results to you if you'd like.

[GeorgeG.]

good luck when you start trying to have a kid....I was told that while reversal is possible, places that offer that service claim if only 1 sperm cell gets through, then they call it a success.

[davbrucas]

HCG is very estrogenic. You better have some nolvadex available for when you start getting gyno symptoms. If you were on test injections for any length of time, your HPTA is likely shut down pretty good. Did your doc do some blood work to check your LH/FSH, estradiol, etc? I would start taking clomid 50mg daily for 4wks along with the HCG.

[Unicorn Jeff]

If you're going to be doing it weekly for a long time it's not a cycle. Cycles are 4 to 8 week periods.