budget PC shopping

[Tx Redneck]

Do you have an extra hdd to install 7 on to see if it's gonna work? If so, I can float you a copy to test with.

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[ScottJ]

Why are yall using software that's reliant on a legacy OS?

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dude, equipment that is pervasive in the network w/o much in the way of software dev from vendor. We're pot committed to the vendor, so we have to bend to whatever they are willing to develop, and have little leverage to influence them modernizing their shit. I'm willing to bet it would work in a virtual box though, and then my problem goes away. Most of my NE management SW is well supported, and won't buck Win7, just one that has me worried.

[Tx Redneck]

Why are yall using software that's reliant on a legacy OS?

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[ScottJ]

No reason it shouldn't unless they didn't make drivers for XP. Another issue will be the ability to utilize the 8gigs of ram if you're not using a 64bit OS. Not to mention XP is going EOL in short order. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle

If you run Win7 PRO or Ulti, you can run an XP virtual box inside of 7 natively w/a free dl from M$. Then there's also the option to run them in compatability mode. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

Food for thought.

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Ya, grumble, some old network element management software will probably hate Win 7, but yes maybe I should test out a virtual box.

I want access to the 8g of ram, so perhaps I'm running Win 7 no matter what, and will have to find a band-aide for the old client SW. Worst case, I can run that stuff on my other box, but you know just trying to keep it seamless as possible...

[Tx Redneck]

No reason it shouldn't unless they didn't make drivers for XP. Another issue will be the ability to utilize the 8gigs of ram if you're not using a 64bit OS. Not to mention XP is going EOL in short order. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle

If you run Win7 PRO or Ulti, you can run an XP virtual box inside of 7 natively w/a free dl from M$. Then there's also the option to run them in compatability mode. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

Food for thought.

Sent from my iPhail eleventybillion

[ScottJ]

dumb question, will all this jazz work on my copy of win xp pro? I have some apps that only like xp, so I should really make this a xp pro OS box...

[Lason]

no sweat man, I just built one recently after a few years of messing with them too.

[ScottJ]

You are correct, I just noticed the monitor I posted first (the one I have) is different that the one Frys has. The one I has doesnt have the DVI port and the Frys one does so yeah you can just use a normal DVI cable to hook it up.

sweet much appreciated w/ all the info, last time I built something was like 4+ years ago!

[Lason]

I checked that EVGA card it says it has these connectors:

DVI 2 x Dual-Link DVI-I
Dual Link DVI Support Yes
HDMI 1 x mini-HDMI 1.4a

ASUS monitor says it has these connectors:

Input / Output

PC Input: DVI-D/D-Sub
PC Audio Input: 3.5mm Mini-jack
Video Input: HDMI 1.3
AV Audio Input: HDMI 1.3
Earphone jack: 3.5mm Mini-jack



So maybe I can just hook up TV with a miniHDMI - HDMI cable, and ASUS monitor with DVI - DVI cable. Does that sound right?

You are correct, I just noticed the monitor I posted first (the one I have) is different that the one Frys has. The one I has doesnt have the DVI port and the Frys one does so yeah you can just use a normal DVI cable to hook it up.

[ScottJ]

I would run a DVI to displayport cable like this one for the monitor and then HDMI for the TV.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I checked that EVGA card it says it has these connectors:

DVI 2 x Dual-Link DVI-I
Dual Link DVI Support Yes
HDMI 1 x mini-HDMI 1.4a

ASUS monitor says it has these connectors:

Input / Output

PC Input: DVI-D/D-Sub
PC Audio Input: 3.5mm Mini-jack
Video Input: HDMI 1.3
AV Audio Input: HDMI 1.3
Earphone jack: 3.5mm Mini-jack



So maybe I can just hook up TV with a miniHDMI - HDMI cable, and ASUS monitor with DVI - DVI cable. Does that sound right?

[Lason]

I would run a DVI to displayport cable like this one for the monitor and then HDMI for the TV.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&cs_id=1024604&p_id=6000&seq=1&format=2

[ScottJ]

Oh and just looked in my email and Frys is having a sale and has that same monitor I posted up for $179 with $10 MIR

http://www.frys.com/product/6486092?site=frysecampaign

That's really cool, so would I run into an issue connecting my 32" (HDMI) and this one, to that EVGA card suggested above?

[Lason]

Oh and just looked in my email and Frys is having a sale and has that same monitor I posted up for $179 with $10 MIR

http://www.frys.com/product/6486092?site=frysecampaign

[Lason]

Im running 3 of these and love them, no complaints. They have built in speakers but they suck so dont plan on relying on them. Only other issue is no DVI input, displayport and HDMI only which can suck for alot of users. 24" btw

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236154

Oh and on the keyboard and mouse, I like Razer products and although I have/had a Razer Lycosa keyboard for 5 years, when I built my new pc I got a new one and it sucks. The backlighting does whatever it wants when I restart, it may be lit, partially lit or all dark and I have to hit the button to turn it back on. Only does it on restarts though. Also it doesnt seem as responsive as my old one, I actually switched them out and gave my kids the new one.

I use a Razer Naga mouse and love it but its aimed at gamers with all the extra buttons on the side. The do have some nice wireless ones too.

[ScottJ]

Very helpful fellas, seems like the best thing to do is what I did last time (build my own). Seems like the only loose end is a primary screen (20 - 20"), and a nice mouse/keyboard. Any of you have the LED computer screens? Feedback vs. LCD? I know the LED TV's look pretty amazing, I imagine computer monitors should be like that too.