Glock beat down: guy abuses a G21 mercilessly

[futant]

lots of people have shot 45 super out of factory glock 21's .
It is not recommended due to the less than total case support but I've never heard of any problems.
Most people definitely do not recommend it without a simple spring change.
Most get at a minimum the steel guide rod and heaviest spring (like 22 or 24lb I believe).
If you're smart you get a new barrel that is fully supported too.

As I understand it the HK is a fully supported chamber from the get go, so that is a design difference . The G21 was NEVER meant to shoot 45 super, anyone who says otherwise is a fucking idiot.

I really wanted to blast a pig with my g21, but really it necessitated too much.
Expensive ass 45 super ammo since I don't reload
aforementioned SS guide rod and spring swap
wolf barrel 6" for slightly better velocity
and making up to 50 yard shots.
So ..... I gave up. I wanted it to be a cheap pistol, can't throw 200 more bucks at a 400 dollar used gen one G21 and say its cheap.

Otherwise I wouldn't have offered to practically destroy if for forum amusement!
LOL , let's do this. Someone name the test, and I'll do it with video.
I'd say the most likely to fail is JHP's. Maybe not, I just don't want to pay for a buttload of JHP ammo to prove a point I already know has been proven by others online.

[BlackGT]

I'm down for the challenge with my Glock 20.

BUT....

Whoever loses, the winner gets to use the losing gun as a target. So, if you're confident enough that you H & K will work as well as the glock when thrown into the sand, water, mud, and whatever else, then let's go...

It's only money, so you can buy a new pistol after I FUBAR yours with my 10mm...

[dmdakota]

Its like this. A new m3 costs nearly twice as much as a new mustang GT and performs comparably, but it is a hell of a lot better of a car, it is more exclusive, has more frills, and is cooler.

So is that what this is about Justifying The money you spent?

[Nash B.]

I have accepted said challenges.

Sunday afternoon?

[dmdakota]

100.000-Round 9mm Torture Test

http://membres.multimania.fr/shooter/glock/glock4.html

H&K nut swingers suck it!

[Moose242]

You've been challenged by two people. Stop talking about it and start being about it.

I have accepted said challenges.

50,000 rounds

1 stoppages 1 (*) malfunctions 1 parts breakages

Dohctr, If the gun will shoot .45 super then that is what it was designed for

Manufacturers such as Heckler & Koch (USP and HK45), and Springfield Armory, Inc. currently offer pistols rated to fire .45 Super ‘out of the box’.

So again your argument is not valid unless Glock rated the 21 to shoot .45 super and then it fails. hypothetically lets say you are right your H&K is more reliable than a Glock. When my Glock breaks I will then use the other Glock that I bought with the left over money I did not spend on the H&K.

Who gives a fuck about how much it costs? It is only money, and this comparison is about reliability and which is the finer pistol, not which costs less.

Its like this. A new m3 costs nearly twice as much as a new mustang GT and performs comparably, but it is a hell of a lot better of a car, it is more exclusive, has more frills, and is cooler

[dmdakota]

Lol at the glock vs hk

Glocks are great, I just do not like the grip angle, and prefer XD's.

My one and only H&K, an HK45c has been an awesome pistol, and I definitely do not have any complaints.

Here is a 50,000 round test of the HK45, pretty amazing results:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

I think they are in the middle of testing a Glock 17 now.

50,000 rounds

1 stoppages 1 (*) malfunctions 1 parts breakages

Dohctr, If the gun will shoot .45 super then that is what it was designed for

Manufacturers such as Heckler & Koch (USP and HK45), and Springfield Armory, Inc. currently offer pistols rated to fire .45 Super ‘out of the box’.

So again your argument is not valid unless Glock rated the 21 to shoot .45 super and then it fails. hypothetically lets say you are right your H&K is more reliable than a Glock. When my Glock breaks I will then use the other Glock that I bought with the left over money I did not spend on the H&K.

[GSXRK5]

Holy chit!


Suck it, Glock nut swingers.

You've been challenged by two people. Stop talking about it and start being about it.

[Moose242]

Lol at the glock vs hk

Glocks are great, I just do not like the grip angle, and prefer XD's.

My one and only H&K, an HK45c has been an awesome pistol, and I definitely do not have any complaints.

Here is a 50,000 round test of the HK45, pretty amazing results:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

I think they are in the middle of testing a Glock 17 now.

Holy chit!


Suck it, Glock nut swingers.

[jakesford]

Lol at the glock vs hk

Glocks are great, I just do not like the grip angle, and prefer XD's.

My one and only H&K, an HK45c has been an awesome pistol, and I definitely do not have any complaints.

Here is a 50,000 round test of the HK45, pretty amazing results:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

I think they are in the middle of testing a Glock 17 now.

[ELVIS]

You supply the ammo because I don't want to ruin my beautiful Starline brass, and you're on.

boosh!

god bless.

[momo]

SA XDMs are better than your snake oil.

fixed and agreed.

[Nash B.]

Cool double post bro. Oh, and 45 the 45 super argument is valid. The HK usp goes above and beyond what it was designed for. I bet a factory Glock 21 could not shoot 45 super.

You supply the ammo because I don't want to ruin my beautiful Starline brass, and you're on.

[KBScobravert]

Can we not stiky a thread for these arguments that come up once a week?

My contribution. SA XDs are better than your snake oil.

[Moose242]

My Glock 35 has now around 5,000 rounds fired with the same barrel and has been in many non static shooting scenarios. The last comp I shot it in almost every 1911, h&k, S&w was jamming due to the fine sandy conditions. My gun has never in it's entire life had a FTE,FTF,FTL not once. I do Trust my life with this pistol.

I shot a Glock 34 in IDPA and it jammed on me. I shit you not.

The h&k usp is a fine pistol but as far as reliability I don't think it can compare to Glock.
And the .45 super argument is invalid. Hey why don't we take my H&K .45 and you take your gun that is not chamber for it and shoot them both then we will see who's is better.

Cool double post bro. Oh, and 45 the 45 super argument is valid. The HK usp goes above and beyond what it was designed for. I bet a factory Glock 21 could not shoot 45 super.