texas considering 'sound suppressors' on hunting rifles

[John -- '02 HAWK]

If anything they would go up in value. Many manufacturers discount based on the knowledge their price point includes a mandatory $200 fee.

Not from what I can tell the actual per unit cost starts around 150 and works its way up based on design and material costs because of the low production numbers. This is evidenced by the amount of $200-300 suppressors on the market. So with the $200 tax and 3-6 month wait there is a throttle that limits the demand. Removing the the throttle would allow the product to have a higher demand and the market would respond with a larger supply.

[GAP]

If it means I stop by a sporting goods store, and leave with a suppressor right then and there, i'm all for it.

[CJ]

Well I am just going by what Dr. John Matthews the founder and CEO of Surefire says. What does he know about his business and industry segment anyway?

Exactly how much do you think a sort of glass pack muffler should/would cost even if it is made out of the best materials that can be had if they were not regulated and such a headache to keep in regulatory compliance that only a few companies are willing to manufacture them? I know from first hand experience that they can be bought for as little a $60 US in Europe.

Wow, get a little butt hurt there buddy? If I'm not mistaken, many places in Europe make suppressors mandatory and subsidized.

[svauto-erotic855]

If anything they would go up in value. Many manufacturers discount based on the knowledge their price point includes a mandatory $200 fee.

Well I am just going by what Dr. John Matthews the founder and CEO of Surefire says. What does he know about his business and industry segment anyway?

Exactly how much do you think a sort of glass pack muffler should/would cost even if it is made out of the best materials that can be had if they were not regulated and such a headache to keep in regulatory compliance that only a few companies are willing to manufacture them? I know from first hand experience that they can be bought for as little a $60 US in Europe.

[CJ]

Theres no restrictions on cans limiting the amount to be manufactured and sold. Removing them from the nfa, theyll still be manufactured and still cost the same. Prices wont change a bit as theyre not price based off of rarity and lack of supply like machine guns. Same is said for sbrs, dds, aows.

If anything they would go up in value. Many manufacturers discount based on the knowledge their price point includes a mandatory $200 fee.

[David]

Have you priced any Surefire cans? They are close to $2000 + the paper work. If they were not heavily regulated the same can would cost about $500.

Theres no restrictions on cans limiting the amount to be manufactured and sold. Removing them from the nfa, theyll still be manufactured and still cost the same. Prices wont change a bit as theyre not price based off of rarity and lack of supply like machine guns. Same is said for sbrs, dds, aows.

[Dacotua]

Have you priced any Surefire cans? They are close to $2000 + the paper work. If they were not heavily regulated the same can would cost about $500.

I can find can's that aren't that expensive, I can find cans that are OUTRAGEOUS.

Same thing goes with a Car, A KIA is cheap, while a Mercedes is outrageous.

[svauto-erotic855]

Silencers aren't that expensive right now. Hell the Fed Tax is like 50% of the cost of them now.

Have you priced any Surefire cans? They are close to $2000 + the paper work. If they were not heavily regulated the same can would cost about $500.

[Downs]

Silencers aren't that expensive right now. Hell the Fed Tax is like 50% of the cost of them now.

I'm not even worried about the price. I shouldn't have to jump though flaming hoops and fork 200 more dollars than I already do to get a tax stamp to f'in own one

[Dacotua]

I keep hoping that suppressors will simply be taken off of the NFA list and sold just like any other firearm accessory. The cost would drop to about 30% of what they sell for now if that happens. I'd have Surefire cans on everything that I own a week after the change if it ever comes.

The really funny thing is that they are completely unregulated in most of Europe and you will have your hunting license pulled if you don't use one while hunting in many countries over there. They also allow hunting game animals at night.

Silencers aren't that expensive right now. Hell the Fed Tax is like 50% of the cost of them now.

[David]

I keep hoping that suppressors will simply be taken off of the NFA list and sold just like any other firearm accessory. The cost would drop to about 30% of what they sell for now if that happens. I'd have Surefire cans on everything that I own a week after the change if it ever comes.

No they wouldnt.

[svauto-erotic855]

I keep hoping that suppressors will simply be taken off of the NFA list and sold just like any other firearm accessory. The cost would drop to about 30% of what they sell for now if that happens. I'd have Surefire cans on everything that I own a week after the change if it ever comes.

The really funny thing is that they are completely unregulated in most of Europe and you will have your hunting license pulled if you don't use one while hunting in many countries over there. They also allow hunting game animals at night.

[Chopped54]

Doesn't mean I've ever made one. The fact is if you understand how they work they are not that hard to make with some tools you can buy at home depot. Especially for a low power .22. They obviously won't be as smooth, streamlined or efficient as a commercial one but they would work.

Also not illegal if on a Form 1....

[Downs]

There are ATF agents on this board so you know.

Doesn't mean I've ever made one. The fact is if you understand how they work they are not that hard to make with some tools you can buy at home depot. Especially for a low power .22. They obviously won't be as smooth, streamlined or efficient as a commercial one but they would work.

[Darren M]

A homemade can for a .22 doesn't take long to make. From what I've heard/read on the interweb.

Fixed.