new rifle.

[dee]

Savage also sells a few of their target rifles with McMillan and HS Precision stocks for a little more money....Savage won me over years ago when they introduced the accutrigger. To me, they are some of the best and most accurate factory produced rifles. Their target rifles outshoot some custom target rifles that cost 2-4x as much...I won't buy another Remington, at least not a factory Rem...

I hate the feel of the accutrigger. I have had more issues with savage than any other brand and will not own one. That being said there are plenty of people out there that have had good luck with them.

[BlackGT]

I'd also point out that the Savage accustock rifles are pretty hard to beat for the money.

Savage also sells a few of their target rifles with McMillan and HS Precision stocks for a little more money....Savage won me over years ago when they introduced the accutrigger. To me, they are some of the best and most accurate factory produced rifles. Their target rifles outshoot some custom target rifles that cost 2-4x as much...I won't buy another Remington, at least not a factory Rem...

[Geor!]

I LOVE my 700 VTR .308! I thought all 700s were able to be converted to have a detachable mag.

I remember masturbating to that thing on the old board. Sick ass rifle, dude.

[YALE]

I'd also point out that the Savage accustock rifles are pretty hard to beat for the money.

[dee]

Sps Target is a great start the barrel is a little long at 26" and the stock sucks but a good option.

[Roscoe]

In looking at the VTR vs. AAC-SD, it appears that the AAC is solely designed to work with a can, and has the shortest barrel.

If I'm not looking to add a can anytime soon, what are thoughts on the 700 SPS Varmint in .308?

I'd like a rifle that is a great hunting weapon but will also be good for some long(er) target...

[bybotie]

I'm digging the 700 VTR... In looking at them, they obviously don't come standard for magazine - or do they? What all do you have to do to convert?

2 screws, direct drop in.
http://www.redhawkrifles.com/product...azine-assembly

[dee]

I just like bolt guns though.

Same here.

[dieselgeek]

my dpms lr-308 shot about an inch. Is that about 1/2" ?
so Im having a bit of a trouble convincing myself to go bolt action soon
especially because i have no where i can shoot even 500yrds currently.
so I don't really see what i have to gain.

those matches you shoot look awesome fun. fuck i have too many hobbies!
one must go!

That's a lil under .5 inches IRRC, I had a lil to much cheek pressure which is why the group "grew" tall. My last 300 yard group was .6 inches

Of course for me it's more than about just shooting groups. You could "SPR" that DPMS. Get a better barrel for it, nice trigger, ergonomic butt stock like the magpul SPR.

I just like bolt guns though.

http://topgunshootingclub.com/

[futant]

Trust me you'll want to put them in the same hole and if you know your rifle is capable of it that helps you figure out where you're at with it.

my dpms lr-308 shot about an inch. Is that about 1/2" ?
so Im having a bit of a trouble convincing myself to go bolt action soon
especially because i have no where i can shoot even 500yrds currently.
so I don't really see what i have to gain.

those matches you shoot look awesome fun. fuck i have too many hobbies!
one must go!

[dieselgeek]

I also need to buy a new axle back for my 5.0 wanna go to the casino.
That's why I don't want to blow it all on one thing.

I'm not going to change the stock for a long time. So a good stock right out of the box is a must.

Then call Tac-Cord and order his bedded FN-SPR A1 package.

[soap]

If I really had 5000$ to waste I would not be looking at 500$ rifles. I'm a little confused. Spend 2500 and get a hill country custom rifle. Those things are sweet and shoot well below moa.

http://www.hillcountryrifles.com/cat...ester-Rifle_24

I also need to buy a new axle back for my 5.0 wanna go to the casino.
That's why I don't want to blow it all on one thing.

I'm not going to change the stock for a long time. So a good stock right out of the box is a must.

[dee]

If it comes with a plain synthetic or Hogue overmold stock you can pretty much plan for an upgrade at some point. Some come with HS or B&C stocks which are ok some just don't like the feel of them.

[Roscoe]

I've had the VTR before, it was my first bolt action gun I used to get into long range. If I could start all over again I would not have bought it, but there was nothing "wrong" with it. The muzzle brake is louder than it is effective, and the stock sucks. (like most of them do) You could add detachable bottom metal to the stock, but IMO that's a waste of time and money.

For less money you can get a thicker barreled, AAC-SD that comes w/ a threaded barrel, or you could get the SPS tactical that has no threads on the barrel. The stock sucks on both of these as well. The AAC having the "best" of the bad stocks IMO.

I know plenty of people shoot off bags, and get them to shoot okay, and some claim they are .25 MOA shooters all day. , but when you start putting bipod pressure on those cheap stocks you're contacting the barrel, and it will throw your groups off.

I went w/ the VTR for looks, and because at the time I thought that was a cool design. It's still neat looking, but nothing is really practical about the triangular barrel.

Thanks a lot for your input, it's valuable and I appreciate the recommendations... I'm looking to put something together in the next few months and would prefer not to start off with an inferior (and more costly) platform.

[dieselgeek]

I'm digging the 700 VTR... In looking at them, they obviously don't come standard for magazine - or do they? What all do you have to do to convert?

I've had the VTR before, it was my first bolt action gun I used to get into long range. If I could start all over again I would not have bought it, but there was nothing "wrong" with it. The muzzle brake is louder than it is effective, and the stock sucks. (like most of them do) You could add detachable bottom metal to the stock, but IMO that's a waste of time and money.

For less money you can get a thicker barreled, AAC-SD that comes w/ a threaded barrel, or you could get the SPS tactical that has no threads on the barrel. The stock sucks on both of these as well. The AAC having the "best" of the bad stocks IMO.

I know plenty of people shoot off bags, and get them to shoot okay, and some claim they are .25 MOA shooters all day. , but when you start putting bipod pressure on those cheap stocks you're contacting the barrel, and it will throw your groups off.

I went w/ the VTR for looks, and because at the time I thought that was a cool design. It's still neat looking, but nothing is really practical about the triangular barrel.