38 super

[YALE]

It does appear I omitted power, although I'm not sure why I could have sworn I typed that in.

Something that is seasonal (once a year) and still costs more is not my cup of tea. That being said some guys are making it out of 223 brass with success.

I see. Thanks!

[dee]

I think it is the original sentence

It does appear I omitted power, although I'm not sure why I could have sworn I typed that in.

Starline, dude!

Something that is seasonal (once a year) and still costs more is not my cup of tea. That being said some guys are making it out of 223 brass with success.

[YALE]

It's a shame that 9x23 brass isn't as easy to find or as cheap as super brass. It would be really high on my list.

Starline, dude!

[Cobraman]

What's wrong junior? Don't understand what major power factor is or the original design?

I think it is the original sentence

[dee]

It's not 9mm Magnum. Heck, it's not even 9x23 Winchester.

It's a shame that 9x23 brass isn't as easy to find or as cheap as super brass. It would be really high on my list.

[LANTIRN]

Why not just get a 9mm that is capable of shooting +P+ because you know, it is better, faster, has more energy behind it, and isn't obsolete as fuck?

My thoughts as well. Plus plain factory 9mm is going to be way cheaper for regular practice, which means more range time.

[Nash B.]

When you could have 9mm magnum, aka 38 super instead? No way!

It's not 9mm Magnum. Heck, it's not even 9x23 Winchester.

[YALE]

Didn't know Springfield made one. I think Dan Wesson made a lightweight bobtail super but it's a rare bird. Les baer also makes one but I've heard hit or miss about their qc.

Springfield's isn't a .38. I'm sorry for the confusion.

[dee]

Didn't know Springfield made one. I think Dan Wesson made a lightweight bobtail super but it's a rare bird. Les baer also makes one but I've heard hit or miss about their qc.

[YALE]

I have always wanted a lightweight commander in 1911 for a carry gun but there aren't many options out there. Factory ammo availability has no bearing on me being a reloader and it offers a nice balance of performance and recoil.

Colt makes one in .38 Super, and .45. I think Springfield dusts the tooling off every now and then and runs some. STI will make you anything, lol.

[dee]

I have always wanted a lightweight commander in 1911 for a carry gun but there aren't many options out there. Factory ammo availability has no bearing on me being a reloader and it offers a nice balance of performance and recoil.

[YALE]

They also lowered the power factor needed to make major in a lot of classes.

Tony, if you're happy with it, rock on.

[bird_dog0347]

38 Super (and supercomp) are still very much alive and well in USPSA shooting in the open division. The only reason for that is that the division allows you to make major power factor with a bullet as small as .355 and the additional room in the case makes it much easier to load to major PF with a slower burning powder that will work the comp.

Outside of that, I see very little reason to use 38 super since it's expensive, hard to find, the brass is expensive if you're reloading it, and unless you're trying to make a hotter 9mm round there's no reason to take on the added expense over 9mm.

[AnthonyS]

Uhhhhhhhh wut


Just get a 1911 in 9mm.

When you could have 9mm magnum, aka 38 super instead? No way!

[AnthonyS]

When run a major factor level the super is very powerful. It was originally invented to shoot through the car bodys of the period.

Yes 38 super was the first FBI designed round. Colt worked with them and made it work in the 1911 frame. I honestly think it works better than 45 ACP due to the smaller diameter and same length. And then the recoil is so much less too.

38 Super +P is going to be faster than 9 mm +P.

9mm +P loads hit 1200 ft/sec in 115 grain bullets. 38 super +P loads will have the same bullets at 1400 ft/sec or faster. And energy is mass times velocity squared.

I've shot plenty of self defense 9mm +P out of my XDm. It's not nearly as fun to shoot as 38 super in a 1911 platform.

Now I need to find a good supply of power pistol or No 9 or N350 powder...... I'm going to need a lot for 38 super and 10mm.