Arlington PD are some sneaky MOFOs.

[clevelandkid]

Although that's a crappy tactic, I'm for getting drunks off the street.

Obviously you have never had a drunk driver impact your life.

Actually, I've lost what was my best friend at the time, in 3 different DUI wrecks. I also have had a few acquaintances kill others or be killed in them as well. I have actually been hit by a drunk driver too.

I'm all for getting drunks off the road - I just don't think the "wait outside the bar" method works very well at actually reducing drinking and driving overall. I can't tell you how many people I know that have 3+ DUIs - and I used to get absolutely shit housed and drive home from the bar 4-5 nights a week - probably at least 1,000 times and never got a DUI, and I'd go to bars where I knew they did this.

I won't drink and drive at all now, so the tactic doesn't really affect me - I just think there needs to be drastic change to really make a difference. I wish somebody would have been there to arrest my friends before they died, but to be honest, 2 of the 3 had DUIs before, and it didn't stop them from doing it again.

[ceyko]

Personally, I don't see why someone would want to get so hammered they don't have control of themselves, but to each to their own.

It happens every night at a lot of bars. You have a problem when you do it every night or otherwise "often." If you're blowing off some steam once a month or every couple of weeks with a bunch of friends....seems normal to me.

I concur with the driving thing, it's important to have that taken care of for sure.

[Steve]

Just because you have some kind of hang up with drinking doesn't mean that everyone who does it "has a problem".

I don't have a hang up about drinking at all. If you want to get hammered, fine, go for it - just stay home and do it.

What I do have issue with is people that go out into public and get hammered to the point they can barely function. Or the same people who get a false confidence since they made it home the time before after a few drinks, they must be "ok" and can drive just fine after a few drinks. That's what alchohol does, it fucks up your judgement.

And this thought process of getting cut off at a bar is perfectly normal is crazy thinking. That's not normal, thats drinking to excess.

Personally, I don't see why someone would want to get so hammered they don't have control of themselves, but to each to their own.

[Broncojohnny]

Uh, no. It's crazy to think that someone thinks that is normal. It's not, its a sign of a problem.

Just because you have some kind of hang up with drinking doesn't mean that everyone who does it "has a problem".

[Steve]

I've never been cut off by the bar and I've been in really bad shape before (like everyone I'm sure). Those bad nights I did get rides home one way or another. (friends, wife...etc)

The night I found out my wife was pregnant with my first kid (ended up being twins) I tied one on big time, was puking out the window through Plano. Could not figure out why she was so pissed off. (She wanted to tell me - I don't get blitzed that often, even before kids while out and about)

Either way, if I did drive home and got caught...etc - I don't see how it is the bar's fault.

Edit to your edit - probably should just have a 1-2 drink limit.

Uh, no. It's crazy to think that someone thinks that is normal. It's not, its a sign of a problem.

[Forever_frost]

Can they just pull you over for leaving a bar? Don't they need probable cause for making a traffic stop... like not using a blinker, wide turn, etc? I don't drink or go to bars, just wondering. Seems like this would make for bad business for a local bar owner.

I was wondering about this

[03trubluGT]

Yeah I think Allen PD has been known to do that over by the sports bars at Bethany.

not really a problem for me , I just stay home and drink. screw spending all your money at a bar.

I personally don't have a problem with it. It's kind of shady I guess, especially if they're just pulling them over for no reason.

but the choice is yours , go get drunk and hang til 2am or do something more productive.
I'd rather see cops harassing someone who is probably doing something illegal. That's their fucking job.

I can't emphasize enough the effectiveness of the traffic stop.

Since the police can't just walk into homes, people put themselves available by travelling on a public roadway. When they can't or won't follow the rules, it makes for easy PC.

Last week I stopped a 20 year old for doing 62 in a 40 down Bryant Irvin south of I20.

I ran him and he had 27 FWPD warrants and 5 Mansfield warrants. He had the nerve to ask for a warning. I would think that the 32 warrants were warning enough. He also was a habitual violator and his license was suspended.

He took a ride to the gray bar motel.

If he had been doing anywhere near the speed limit, he would have never gotten caught.

[UserX]

Can they just pull you over for leaving a bar? Don't they need probable cause for making a traffic stop... like not using a blinker, wide turn, etc? I don't drink or go to bars, just wondering. Seems like this would make for bad business for a local bar owner.

[futant]

Yeah I think Allen PD has been known to do that over by the sports bars at Bethany.

not really a problem for me , I just stay home and drink. screw spending all your money at a bar.

I personally don't have a problem with it. It's kind of shady I guess, especially if they're just pulling them over for no reason.

but the choice is yours , go get drunk and hang til 2am or do something more productive.
I'd rather see cops harassing someone who is probably doing something illegal. That's their fucking job.

[CexMashean]

Shame on those bars for forcing people to consume their product, and not permitting them to leave before they've reached their reasonable limit! SHAME!

[03trubluGT]

Typical revenue generation tactic. It's not changing a damn thing, just scooping up the easy money. There will be just as many drunks driving home from the bar tonight as there were last night.

Although that's a crappy tactic, I'm for getting drunks off the street.

Obviously you have never had a drunk driver impact your life.

[94form2000z]

Your first mistake was closing the bar down. I would never be on the road at that time if I have had a drink.

and that place is a shit hole.

[Broncojohnny]

Typical revenue generation tactic. It's not changing a damn thing, just scooping up the easy money. There will be just as many drunks driving home from the bar tonight as there were last night.

Well, that is just plain crazy talk, mister....

[clevelandkid]

Typical revenue generation tactic. It's not changing a damn thing, just scooping up the easy money. There will be just as many drunks driving home from the bar tonight as there were last night.

[GrayStangGT]

Nothing good ever happens that late at night

Apparently you've never been to Whataburger at 2am