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Originally posted by racrguy View PostMUUUAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I will bend you to my ways soon enough, Frosty boy!
And 3? Don't call me Frosty boy. I'm not your boyfriend
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MUUUAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I will bend you to my ways soon enough, Frosty boy!
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostLove ya snookems!
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostYes, there is due process. Unlike in the Army, the police go home at the end of the day. We're confined on post. Apples and oranges and fuck you for making me defend racr.
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Yes, there is due process. Unlike in the Army, the police go home at the end of the day. We're confined on post. Apples and oranges and fuck you for making me defend racr.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostAre you comparing the military to the police force? You can quite the police force anytime. Not so much with the military. We have more boundaries than the police, more limitations oh, and the population is protected from us doing shit to them by the posse commatatus act.
What protects us from police?
You get a trial, a fast one. You don't have union protections, you're locked down on post and go nowhere. For this to be remotely similar, you'd have to have that cop locked down in the precinct with every move of his monitored by his superiors.
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retrial confinement and restriction to base are the two most important ways the military uses to control those who are accused of offenses under the UCMJ and who are considered a flight risk or a risk to further offend.
The pretrial confinement process begins with the person being taken into custody. That can happen in several ways: law enforcement apprehends the person; or there has been an investigation and there is concern about the person’s willingness to appear for any future proceedings, could interfere with witnesses or the investigation, or in some extreme cases is a suicide risk.
United States v. Heard, 3 M.J. 14 (C.M.A. 1977) was the early military case on this issue, although later cases in the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces and the U.S. Supreme Court have further clarified all that is required. Once the person is put into pretrial confinement there are some due process rights that attach and a procedure that must be followed. The rules can be found in UCMJ, Articles 9 and 10, and Rules for Courts-Martial 304 (other than confinement) and 305 (pretrial confinement), as well as some implementing regulations. For example, paragraph 5-14, and chap. 9, AR 27-10 has information for Army cases on pretrial confinement. You can find useful general information for Air Force cases in their “Military Commander and the Law.”
Unlike the civilian courts there is no bail system in the military.
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Are you comparing the military to the police force? You can quit the police force anytime. Not so much with the military. We have more boundaries than the police, more limitations oh, and the population is protected from us doing shit to them by the posse commatatus act.
What protects us from police?
You get a trial, a fast one. You don't have union protections, you're locked down on post and go nowhere. For this to be remotely similar, you'd have to have that cop locked down in the precinct with every move of his monitored by his superiors.
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Originally posted by Forever_frost View PostActually no. I'd prefer him fired. You're under the impression that the opposite of 'on leave' is at work. No, no paid leave, no desk work. Child porn? You're gone and we'll go through this at our leisure (as they do on anyone else) and you can figure out what you're going to do about a job. Do you think if you're working anywhere else and there's an accusation of child porn on your computer that your job is going to say "Why don't you go home for a bit, enjoy your salary while things get figured out?" No, it's "Get the fuck out."
I have perfect logic. You have the blue tinted police blinders on that says police deserve more protections than we do.
Do they throw out the UCMJ? Do they have a trial (due process)?
Or do they just throw the guy out and don't worry about that?
Go ahead and use your "perfect logic" on that.......
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Originally posted by 03trubluGT View PostWhat would you guys rather have? An officer that is fired and gets his job back because it was mishandled?
Instead of on leave and without a badge/gun, you'd rather have the guy working taking calls, making decisions about the public's safety while he knows they are building a case against him?
You guys have absolutely no logic when it comes to this. I would rather have the guy detached and away from interacting with the public, away from making life/death decisions, or decisions effecting someone's liberties. Take your time and make a case for termination that sticks, so he won't keep his job, or be able to get another job somewhere else!
Is it really that hard to understand?
You guys are like a brick wall.
I have perfect logic. You have the blue tinted police blinders on that says police deserve more protections than we do.
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