FWPD Shoots and kills family dog while at wrong address

[mikec]

Is this kind of like sending multiple PM's to someone until you get a response?

Yes, though sometimes they never reply. Though I've found that it's usually assholes that do that.

Here is a picture of MY pitbull. She looks so happy because she just finished slaughtering an entire SWAT Team for lunch. Good thing she is always wearing her kevlar collar.

[GE]

Matt has chosen to avoid the question on whether or not audio video would be available in this encounter.

Is this kind of like sending multiple PM's to someone until you get a response?

I just want page two to show the dangerous pitbull that was thankfully quelled before it sawed the officers leg off with it's Great White like teeth.

[kingjason]

Oh ya?

HAHAHAHA and to think I flipped that into word before posting.

retarted.

Oh ya?

[VaderTT]

I hate to comment on shit I have no firsthand knowledge on but the comments in this thread are fucking retarted.

Lol derp

[kingjason]

I hate to comment on shit I have no firsthand knowledge on but the comments in this thread are fucking retarDed. Keep your dogs on a leash or in the back yard. Dogs are dangerous and very unpredictable no matter what breed or size to a point. I am a dog guy and my wife is a dog nut but god damn it we keep our dogs in a fence or on a leash. We live in the city, people are everywhere, and dogs do not need to roam around. I have never shot a dog but came relatively close the other day. Only problem was all the houses and concrete would have been bad (just in case I missed a round). This dog that had never bit any oneeeeee, bit the neighbor’s kid, and then went after his dad that went to see where the dog was. I got there and was just standing there watching it till animal control came and it charged me but turned around right at about five feet from me in full charge. I was about one pound of trigger pull away from unloading on it. It is also not that un common to be a mile or more from the original crime scene looking around for a suspect. The problem with this story is it so wildly different on both sides. I know it is hard to believe people lie but it happens when they talk to the media, and same goes for some POS police officers. All these, oh my gosh the cop was at the wrong house, and my unleashed, unrestrained, wild animal got shot, and now I am going to kill a cop comments are just stupid. You internet warriors sometimes just blow me away with your crazy comments. If my Mastiff was in the front yard, charged an officer, and got shot, then so be it. Wrong house or not, the front yard is still in the public, and it would be 100 percent my fault. I know this may shock you but not everyone likes dogs. More people than not are irritated with your un restrained dog charging them up for a friendly smell. I have no issue if the cop was looking for a suspect, got charged by a barking growling dog, and shot the dog, in the front yard. If he lied just to make his story sound better, then I have a huge problem with that. We have people get bit at least once a week by some ones dog that was not restrained. Only a handful of times have I actually heard the owner say, oh shit, yeah my dog bites the shit out of people. It is almost always, my sweet doggy has never ever even growled at anyone.

Even if I was not a police officer I would feel the same way about a dog in a front yard just FYI. Hell even responsible dog owners hate people that do not control their dogs.

Excuse me, I cannot answer the question because I have no idea the details.

But,

You started out good, but then just couldn't help running off at the mouth again. Shocking.

[roliath]

There is a large demographic that is flat out afraid of dogs. It's the same demographic that is heavily recruited because of the "need for diversity". Dogs calls and snake calls are usually not the ones responded to by this group.

If you have read anything I have ever posted about dogs, you would not have mentioned questioning my stand on this topic.

The family will file a claim with risk management, and there will be a settlement. I have no doubt on this.

EVERY shooting is documented and sent up the chain as a "Critical Police Incident". If you have any thought that it isn't reviewed, then let me inform you on the process.

The supervisor (Sergeant) starts an investigation. This investigation is complete with witness statements and a full Crime Scene workup to involve a scale diagram and photos. The supervisor looks for policy/tactical violations and forwards a recommendation.

The completed investigation goes to the Lieutenant. The LT reviews the packet and either concurs with the supervisor, or adds additional information and makes a recommendation for discipline.

The LT forwards the packet to the Captain and he does the same.

The Captain forwards the packet to the Major and he does the same.

The Major forwards the packet to the Bureau Deputy Chief for final review/recommendation. If there is any discipline, it is sent back through the chain for the discipline.

Mind you, once the LT and above get it, they are looking to see if the officer screwed up. They are going to protect the city and offer the officer as a sacrificial lamb if they screwed up. There is no benefit to protecting a screw up that will expose the city to continued liability. Progressive discipline is the only way of due process that will terminate an officer.

I know what your stance on dogs is, to which i'm glad you are a dog person.
And thanks for the explanation.

[03trubluGT]

If only you would use this logic in every thread of this nature...

Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot about your vast knowledge of these topics.

Please excuse my humble attempt at trying to explain things.

By all means, take it from here....

[03trubluGT]

You knew it was coming. If you enter an FTP thread on DFWM you're gonna have a bad time.

edit: With that said, the cop is a fucking moron. nothing will come of this and the family will now more than likely resent all officers in the future. The city will throw this under the carpet, throw a big FUCK YOU to the family and the cop will go unpunished. Its the same shit Matt, the same shit that we can't fucking stand and if you can stand up for these actions; than my opinions about you were wrong regardless of all the bullshit you catch on this site.

That's the shit we're tired of, I fucking wish to god they will start holding these dumbshit officers accountable for their actions.


FEROCIOUS PIT BULL?

There is a large demographic that is flat out afraid of dogs. It's the same demographic that is heavily recruited because of the "need for diversity". Dogs calls and snake calls are usually not the ones responded to by this group.

If you have read anything I have ever posted about dogs, you would not have mentioned questioning my stand on this topic.

The family will file a claim with risk management, and there will be a settlement. I have no doubt on this.

EVERY shooting is documented and sent up the chain as a "Critical Police Incident". If you have any thought that it isn't reviewed, then let me inform you on the process.

The supervisor (Sergeant) starts an investigation. This investigation is complete with witness statements and a full Crime Scene workup to involve a scale diagram and photos. The supervisor looks for policy/tactical violations and forwards a recommendation.

The completed investigation goes to the Lieutenant. The LT reviews the packet and either concurs with the supervisor, or adds additional information and makes a recommendation for discipline.

The LT forwards the packet to the Captain and he does the same.

The Captain forwards the packet to the Major and he does the same.

The Major forwards the packet to the Bureau Deputy Chief for final review/recommendation. If there is any discipline, it is sent back through the chain for the discipline.

Mind you, once the LT and above get it, they are looking to see if the officer screwed up. They are going to protect the city and offer the officer as a sacrificial lamb if they screwed up. There is no benefit to protecting a screw up that will expose the city to continued liability. Progressive discipline is the only way of due process that will terminate an officer.

[SS Junk]

Excuse me, I cannot answer the question because I have no idea the details.

If only you would use this logic in every thread of this nature...

[03trubluGT]

Matt has chosen to avoid the question on whether or not audio video would be available in this encounter.

Excuse me, I cannot answer the question because I have no idea the details.

But, I highly doubt that there is any audio/video because of it not being pursuit related.

The department is testing different POV cams and as of yet, there has not been a purchase program.

[Downs]

Shooter would be arrested, held on insanely high bond, and convicted of murder to be used as an example to the rest.

It's happened when no knock warrants were served on the wrong house. Seemed to be a spike of them for a while then either we aren't hearing about them anymore or they've gotten better at using google maps.

The home owner would fire thinking someone was breaking into his house. Obviously he'd be way outgunned by a multi-person entry team packing full autos, CS, and flash bangs.