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67 Years Ago - BOOOOOOOOOM, b**ches!
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I love hearing the debates regarding the USA using nukes. I think it was a horrible way to end a horrible war, but it was the right way to do it. In the end it saved lives on both sides. Invading main land Japan would have been very ugly.
Scary thought. Those were small nukes compared to the modern ones. M.A.D.
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Originally posted by 46Tbird View PostThat's a very revisionist history point of view.
The Japanese people were prepared to fight to the very last individual. Schoolkids were being taught defensive tactics with sharpened bamboo sticks - aim for the junk of the rapist, bloodthirsty, American invaders. As I mentioned above, nearly every Japanese home was directly supporting the war effort. The atomic bombs saved Japanese lives by forcing them to surrender. That is a concept that today's liberal US education system does not teach.
It is still taught in Japanese schools today that Japan was forced into a war, fought valiantly, and then America came in at the end and dropped a bunch of bombs and two nukes that killed a bunch of their people. No mention is made of the atrocities they commited throughout Asia, their imperialism across the southern Pacific, or the attack on Pearl Harbor.
And I'm sure everyone has heard it, but 500,000 Purple Heart medals were ordered in anticipation for the invasion, and they still haven't all been used yet, in fact, over 100,000 of those original medals are still in stock.
Stevo
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Originally posted by 68RR View PostWha'ts sad is all the nay sayers who have for the past years keep complaining about the use of the bomb. Here's what my good friend wrote to the editor of the Des Moins paper a few years back:
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Wha'ts sad is all the nay sayers who have for the past years keep complaining about the use of the bomb. Here's what my good friend wrote to the editor of the Des Moins paper a few years back:
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Originally posted by JP135 View PostRead about The Rape of Nanking sometime when you're bored. WWII Japan was not the Japan we know today.
Had we invaded the Japanese mainland, the death toll to their civilian population (who were, as stated by 46 Tbird, were ordered and trained to fight to the death) would have been 10 times the losses of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. We would have essentially wiped out the entire Marine Corps as a fighting force due to KIA and wounded, as well as many many Army divisions, in addition to huge Navy and Army Air Force losses.
If you can find a tiny little book called "Top Secret" by James Martin Davis and published by Ranger Publications, by all means read it. It gives the estimated losses both civilian and military and goes into detail about Operation Coronet - the code name for the invasion.
And try to remember who attacked whom.
We would have had to literally kill every man, woman and child island by island and make sure those wounded died so they wouldn't attack our rear. You do that and lose our own all the way to the Emperor himself who would fight to his last breath as well.
Or...you could do something that was so flash that it broke his heart and thus, the heart of the people.
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Originally posted by talisman View Post"Pearl Harbor didn't work out so we got you with tape decks."
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by Trip McNeely View PostEconomic revenge.
"Pearl Harbor didn't work out so we got you with tape decks."
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Originally posted by CJ-95GT View PostFrom a completely destroyed country to a major economic force in today's economy.
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Originally posted by BradM View PostI can't remember if I dreamed this or not but, didn't some moron on here ask if anyone had ridden an atomic bomb like Slim Pickens did in Dr. Strangelove?
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Originally posted by stephen4785 View PostIt was a sad day in history. 160,000 women/children/elderly/men had to die and more permanently screwed up to get a point across. It had to be done but thousands of people that had nothing to do with it had to sit by while their government led them to total loss of life and property.
Had we invaded the Japanese mainland, the death toll to their civilian population (who were, as stated by 46 Tbird, were ordered and trained to fight to the death) would have been 10 times the losses of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. We would have essentially wiped out the entire Marine Corps as a fighting force due to KIA and wounded, as well as many many Army divisions, in addition to huge Navy and Army Air Force losses.
If you can find a tiny little book called "Top Secret" by James Martin Davis and published by Ranger Publications, by all means read it. It gives the estimated losses both civilian and military and goes into detail about Operation Coronet - the code name for the invasion.
And try to remember who attacked whom.
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